the NewBoss from DeathmatchMaker. 

you could try PhantomPholly, I put it in there.
I never saw it in a mod so I tried to mae it look convincing.

Not sure if you think it's cool. 

Madfox: Thanks for the tip, I'll look at it.

Ijed: The dragon from Rogue? It's a bit static... flies around and tosses some projectiles...

perhaps if I have six or eight flying above the moat... but I want to have the boss fight indoors.

Use of svn: This is widely used in the open source community, even in small projects. It's practically standard.

I suggested something like this back when the map sources were released, to put them in a svn repository and gradually improve them in a controlled way.

That was before it became obvious that it's better to rebuild them.

Still, svn is definitely useful and I wonder why the Quake community seems to ignore it. Many open source projects are hosted on sourceforge.net, using svn. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to have a Quake map on there just as well as any other software.

I guess nobody tried it yet.

Also, most people don't like to look at maps as software. They are though, technically.

Theoretically, a community svn repository could be hosted on a site like Shub-Hub, too. Much like a miniature version of sourceforge.net. Such a central repo would be very vulnerable to attacks though.

Thinking out loud, as always. 

the general public can follow every single commit (via "browse svn" at sourceforge) and thus, even during a time without map releases, it's always visible that things are progressing.

People can watch the progress and read the comments. Work in progress would become more visible (and the "Quake is dying" thing would tone down because you can always say "there have been X commits last month so stfu".)

svn can be pretty transparent to the public. It's good for everybody. 

flies around and tosses some projectiles...

I succeeded to compile it out of the SOA mod and yet it has become a quite powerfull dragon.
It can flie around but also attacks you with a rather tacky advancement, becoming a monster Chtong could compare with.
Sets your heals on fire and traces you down to the slightest hideaways. 

gimme gimme gimme 

 

Look in Necros ne_sp06 - Once upon Atrocity
annd my own hrimsp1 - Frying obstacles. 

How does one:

1) Select all static meshes within the "red building box"?
2) Copy/Paste all selected meshes from one map into another? 

can you not filter out everything else and then do a select all? Just a thought as I dont have the editor in front of me right now... 

at the time i made it, i hadn't understood how quake collision hulls worked, so i just made the dragon move like a normal monster, which means he clips into geometry a *lot*.

it would be worth coding some kind of method of navigating via nodes or make extra large bbox collision code.

or build some kind of clipped off area that the dragon can fly in, but that's more limiting because the player will collide into it as well.

it just occured to me that it would be cool to be able to make clip brushes that only affect certain hulls..... that's a compiler thing though. :S 

Or func_monsterclip for problem cases. 

I had a lot of trouble getting that stupid dragon to stay out of the geometry myself!!!

I'm using the dragon once again in a upcomming map. The map is done I just need to finish of the QC code. 

now we're on the subject I'm thinking to open a new toppic about monsters, as I almost seem to like it even more than mapping.
And I see more new maps then new monsters.

I tried to get a hold on the dragon, with some help of preach. I wanted it to function normal as any other entity monster. So I can give it path_corners and all.

I got stuck with the spellmaster.qc so I decide to make my own. This dragon has not only a firenball but also a thunderbolt.
I would like to give it a flame breach but sofar I haven't come.
The frames are rather strange grouped, other than in DOE, but I added some death frames.
It might be hard to kill as the health parameter is 2000, this for the fact it would be an end boss.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/drago.rar

I would like to hear your reactions, as I was interested in it the first moment I saw it in DOE. 

Hrimfaxi, thanks for the tips!

I played with this mod for a while:

http://shub-hub.com/idgames2/quakec/monsters/dragons.zip

and I think it is unbelievable. Those dragons circling in the sky and your dragon familiar fighting other dragons in the air, it looks like something from Star Wars... incredible feeling. Several kinds of dragons.

It uses the QTest dragon though, and it's more a regular monster than a boss.

Necros, played that map, have to say very nice! But I feel the dragon is a bit radical for my needs. (HP and attack) You really tried to make it into a boss monster, which was successful (be quick when switching to God mode/picking up the pent). Personally I'd want dragons a bit weaker and kinda circling over the battlefield, and then an indoor boss.

Madfox, newboss: you mean the red snake like thing that comes out of lava? It would perhaps need a better skin... the shape looks ok.

Now on to playing the other maps. 

It's cool, although it moves totally differently from the above mentioned dragons. It kinda floats upright, and it's more worm shaped (rogue) versus more crocodile shaped (qtest).

The upright position makes it look special. It is rather helpless once you get behind it, I think it would need to turn faster and have a bite or tail swipe attack.

Since it has paws, unlike the qtest dragon, I could also imagine it walking on the ground, like the dragon in Tomb Raider 2, only taking off when hurt (or not at all.) In that case, it should be slow and have a ton of HP. Although even with a small dragon like this, a rocket to the face should make some impression... its HP are rather high. The above mentioned dragon takes 5 rockets to kill, in comparison. So it's tempting to use in packs (and it looks cool when they infight.)

The rogue skin is better than the qtest one, although with the detailed skin and unusual movement, it looks distinctly Quoth.

The qtest one looks like just another monster, which isn't bad if you think about it, if you know what I mean. Once you killed it 200 times, the skin isn't so important anymore. :-) 

fuck how do i put the Zombie to start in the floor laydown? 

Search in id for ZOMBIES! by Ace_Dave 

I think you have to set a targetname for the zombie, then target it with a trigger.

I was looking at the map source for E1M3 and there are zombies which target other zombies, zombies targetted by triggers and some with spawnflags 256. That seems to be it! 256 is a "not in whatever skill" isn't it? 

nop... dont work :( 

Unless you want them for decoration only. Then you can turn a crucified zombies with "angles" "# # #" or use the modelindex hack for its death frame. 

it can be decoracion... but what is value? i try many...

angles" "# # #"???? 

spawnfalgs 1(2?)
doesn't work in the regular id progs
'work' in the soa , doe & zer(i guess) 

never had sleeping zombies. they would just push a zombie up from the ground with a func_door. 

Alright, so since TxQbsp keeps giving me a bogus error of "subdivideface: didn't split the polygon" when I know for a fact I don't have any textures below 0.20 scale, I tried to compile this map I have with TyrQbsp. Surprising enough, it worked with no problems.

Well, almost no problems. The log clearly says the map is leaking "Reached occupant" but when I load it up in an engine and type in "pointfile" it says a .pts file doesn't exist.

Where is tyrqbsp placing the .pts file?