Not enough undead in this thread.
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The games industry didn't crash in the 80s because Atari employees ran out of ideas. It crashed because Atari started rushing games faster and faster which demands not using original ideas. *cough* EA *cough* New movies keep comming out after decads. New books keep comming out after centuries. Why innovation will suddenly stop so quickly in an interactive medium is beyond me. 

Why innovation will suddenly stop so quickly in an interactive medium is beyond me.

*cough* EA *cough*

You provided my own argument for me. Innovation won't stop, but is there enough to sustain the business model as is? Yeah, new movies keep coming out - really awesome movies like The Matrix: Revolutions and Catwoman.

Publishers are caring more about milking IP than experimenting with new gameplay because games are becoming such a massive investment to make now - the tried and true is safer on the bottom line than the unproven when you've gotta pay forty artists for three years, so aside from occasional gems it's all we're going to get unless the market (us) starts demanding more Quakes and less Quake 3 Arenas.

Also, I am aware of how cynical I am. 

also aware of just how dead sexy you are? 

I am starting to get sick of all these recent articles predicting the imminent death of the games industry.

I'd like to think they're a bunch of clueless wankstains that simply don't realize the massive potential that is there for brilliant, involving, original games... and I think in a way, that's right... however, the sad reality of the matter is, they do have a point.

Because if things keep going as they are, surely we cannot sustain the industry in its current state (who would want to, anyway?) Even Nintendo don't seem to be doing anything new (every new platform just has the same Mario and Zelda games... come on, if you're not going to give us new gameplay, you could at least make a new character or something!)

Of course, what most gamers unfortunately don't realise (unless they work for a game developer), is that there is plenty of potential for new game ideas and designs... it is just potential that will never be realised within the current developer/publisher model.

New, creative, innovative games simply cannot happen because publishers will not take a risk on original titles. Its all about guaranteed revenue for their shareholders, so they're going to churn out the next game based on proven IP rather than trying something new.

Most original games designs and ideas will be kept in the bottom drawer until the developers can secure alternative funding for the projects (which might be never). 

waluigi 

Frib: right.

Pope: unfortunately it's my best kept secret. :( 

Yes. Except Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7. Killer 7 has yet to materialize, though. 

...both by Capcom, who can afford to take a few risks at making a new franchise they'll beat into the ground while making Street Fighter Alpha Omega Turbo 2, Megaman 35, and Resident Evil 71 1/2. 

Over and over and over... 

So let's say the current business model is broken. Some how the accountants got in charge and release nothing but tepid crap. People aren't entertained so they stop buying those games. The industry contracts but an alternative business model presents itself. People buy the new games, and because the new model is lucrative so it's widely adopted. The problem solves itself.

Lun: sure there are shitty movies, and there will always be shitty games. But there are also inspired movies and there will always be inspired games. 

entities doesn't really work i think and i can't test the level i made i made an perfectly nice level and it's not working. i have counter-strike: condition zero + swat3 / I HAD HALFLIFE but deleted it from hard-drive too many MB's and more, i want anyone tell anyone bout this i want real for real stuff, like when i'm making a cubed-box and what should i do next should it be an entity that has func_block or func_wall or func_msgboard hehe' but serously i want helping instructions so i can get it to the net and stuff, i have no bsp compressor, only map. rmf. max. dxf. etc. and more of that shit. 

In the off chance you are serious, deleting Half-Life would surely destroy your entities, yes. Don't do that! 

please search at www.google.com for wc3.3 tutorials, there are plenty.
it's rather boring to explain basics here when they're written all over the gaming sites like www.gamedesign.net etc etc. 

Where can I get the quakeworld modification that supports coop? Trying to get some coop going on at work, but there are too many people (i.e. more than 4) who want to play. Please gimme an url that isn't fileplanet (blocked.)

Also, can someone tell me where the quake tools for radiant can be found? I've been using radiant for RTCW mapping for so long I don't want to go back to WC unless I absolutely must.

Cheers in advance. (or "well, fuck you then!" in advance, if you don't know :) 

the best qw client is www.fuhquake.net, we played coop using it w/o probs.

tools for q3 engine
http://www.shaderlab.com/

tools for q1 engine
http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/ 

This is an obvious troll guys. Probably someone from D3W (we seem to have had quite a few trolls from there recently, I wonder why ^_~) 

we must protect ourselves from these creatures... we must raise giant stone walls and sturdy wooden gates...
we must train best moderators to snipe these bastards on sight... 

Be careful, they regenerate rapidly but are susceptible to flame.

That's what my Monster Manual says anyways... 

rumblebox. 

Talks the talk.

^_~ 

limitlesssssssss potential...... 

You guys oughta just leave D3W alone. We're only inviting more of the same, and you know it's just not worth it.

Let them have their forum.