one last thing: the map is only fast vised.
since the map source was gone, i couldn't generate a new .prt file for a new vis session.

bsp2prt just plain crashed (i guess the map is too big?) and the quakeforge bsp, while successful as creating a prt, the prt was not compatible with aguirre's vis and the quakeforge vis crashed trying to vis with the prt file. so yeah, epic failure. :) 

bjp's bspinfo -prt 

well, i'll upload a full vis when it finishes. :P

thanks random nameless person. 

99% of crashed hdd's can be recovered necros, if it's got stuff u really wanted on it. 

bloody hell that is fantastic!

dz: http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/demos/ne_qep1_ext-Feb-09-2011-224403-SpiritQuaddict.dz

ugly sunlight in the outside parts though. 

i've been thinking of doing another one like that for ep3 or 4. it's really a lot of fun to do, if anyone else is interested in trying. just grab the id map sources (romero's link is dead?) and start copy/pasting away. ^_^ 

here's the map again: http://necros.quaddicted.com/downloads/ne_qep1_ext.zip

same link as before, but i replaced the file.

vis, level4 + light, extra4
runs a lot better.

btw, thanks for the demo, spirit. that was fun but fiends ate you! :D 

..is there some sort of new levels ?
or is only a collage of pre-existent parts?

can you explain better the "alternate paths" ?

these type of works are not my cup of
tea(reminds me of a mod called "E5") ..anyway I'll take a look 

map is utterly awesome up to the end of gloom keep, but e1m6 is almost completely unplayable as it appears to have been rotated 90 degrees without most of the door & teleport destination angles being adjusted accordingly. it's first noticeable at the silver key door and every door after it does the same :(

gold key bridge didn't work either and the hallway crusher was ~128 units out. and i couldn't work out how to exit after killing chthon? the usual teleporter leads back to grisly grotto (where the ziggurat vertigo entrance normally is)

such a shame as i was loving it up until then.. great fun to explore and quite a headfuck in places seeing all those familiar places from different perspectives. would have loved to see the big outdoor areas more polished though (the rock surfaces in particular) as well as the new link-up areas

the thing putting me off from trying it is how much tweaking to the architecture i'd want to do and i'd be too tempted to redesign whole rooms a la rmq :) 

sorry about that. :( like i said, it's unfinished. after you reach e1m6, it's pretty much exactly the same, except it was rotated and none of the doors were realigned.

as an aside, i looked over the e2, e3 and e4 maps and i didn't get the urge to combine them... i think it's because i am exponentially more familiar with e1. you gotta know the maps almost by heart if you're going to integrate them together. :S 

I had some fun playing your map. There wasn't much problem with ammo but I have used all possible secrets. I forgot to record a demo. Killed 309 monsters on hard skill. 

one time I thought I would combine all the non-base e2 maps (or even all of them period) into "the TOWER of black magic," literally stack them all up and remake them all in one map in modern style. but I'm not thinking that now. 

yeah, i would strongly suggest against that. mainly because bringing the id maps up to modern standards, no, up to 'clean brushwork' standards alone, is a monumental task.

e1 seemed the cleanest built of the 4 episodes. take a peek at e2m2 or e3m1... they are brutal and getting them to work with modern styles would basically mean rebuilding almost everything.

i suppose, if, after you had everything set up properly, you went from start to finish, room by room, rebuilding and then deleting the old version, it might be possible, but very very slow work, i suspect.
if you like building details, you might enjoy it, otherwise it'll likely get boring.

also, something of note is that, on average, the ep2,3 and 4 maps seem larger than e1 maps so a full combination may not be possible... i recall qep1 was pretty up there in vertices and clipnodes.
otoh, if you clean up the brushwork, you can probably reduce clipnodes and vertices by at least 30% and that is a pessimistic estimate. 

I've got e3m2 and e3m3 rebuilt and connected, e3m7 is connected and partially rebuilt, with backwards access to e3m3 via a remake of a section of e3m6. I just need to find a suitable end arena...Penile Devastation perhaps? Anyhoo, much larger than this and limits start to become a problem. If I can get it all glued together Necros, how do you feel about dropping in the gameplay? 

that sounds impressive. :)

sure, yeah, if you get the brushwork together, i think i could put some monsters in. 

megaboner 

when are we going to see a necros-tronyn megaproject ? 

well I have one map which includes some necros scraps

maybe next fall if necros is up for it. I'd like to try building something directly inspired by Piranesi after I get all my current in-progress Drake maps done. 

Wow, I love his drawings!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Battista_Piranesi 

his stuff is pretty wild, although i wonder how well that will translate to quake due to the wide open nature of his drawings (at least, those prison ones). 

The smoking fire and the drawbridge might. 

I cleaned up everything I had for my silly non-violent bunny hugging game and also even already fixed a bug or two. Hopefully I will finish it this year...

Not much too do actually. But, well, I hacked this together 4 years ago and did not care about anyone trying to make sense of it in the future.

Anyone got an idea how to get bright neon pink as blood in Darkplaces? I am using a particlefont.tga at the moment and it always looks really dark.

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/screen_shots/hdgdl3d_20110217.jpg 

When I look at those rabbits faces, I have impression they just wait for getting the RL out of the pockets and to start the carnage. You can almost feel the tension in the air :). 

first thing i thought when i saw the screenshot was SSG and "wascali wabbits". 

That reminds me of the Watership Down mod that was once being developed for Quake 2 before moving on to another engine and into incompleteness...