Guys, should I turn all my stairs into func_wall, and cover them with clip ramps? I mean, is there any reason I shouldn't do that? I think it would be better to exclude stairs from mesh merging process, as they bring a lot of unnecessary splits. And in case I can do that - ramps or rather stairs shaped clip? 

I dont think it's common practise. One of the querks of Quake is the ramp-jumping effect (if you jump whilst running up a ramp you will fly quite far), and doing what you describe will not reduce the complexity of the mesh that much, and the behaviour of the stairs will be weird.
Players are used to looking at stairs and knowing that you can't ramp-jump up them.

All of the vertexes of the bmodel stairs will still be counted towards your vertex limits (and some marksurfaces). You wont's save many polys. 

..CarnivalQuake

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/screen_shots/circus_3.png

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/screen_shots/circus_1.png

some feedback is appreciated caus I don't know if make it a real mod/pack whatever 

some shading on the skins 

Don't use that "math" to figure out if a point is in a rectangle (or bounding box). It's slow and awkward compared to the simple solution, which is to check if each point coordinate is within the min and max vectors of the bbox.

you can't. first because as the door rotates, the bounding box's accuracy varies from completely so to completely not. you have to continually check from a rotated box, not a static one. if you could just use the bbox, then you could simply set it to a touch function and leave it at that.
on top of that, since we're using the rotate_object as the trigger field, modifying the bbox would change the way the rotating brush is displayed. qbsp seems to create it with a bbox that is larger than the bmodel itself. it seems to make it as large as the bmodel would be if it was rotated 360 all at once from it's origin entity.

Also, for checking whether a point is within a polygon, I prefer the "shoot ray from polygon and see how many polygon segments it hits" method because it is not computationally heavier, it is simpler and it deals with non-convex polygons as well. This method is esp. simple if you translate your polygon by the negative point (which then becomes the origin) and check whether the polygon becomes the origin.

To do this in 3D, project onto one of the coordinate planes (preferrably the plane where the projected polygon has the largest area).

i didn't understand what you mean here. anyway, the check i use is not 3d. the pushable doors only work for y axis doors and have seperate code from x and z axis rotation. (or they would if i needed that and bothered coding it).
doing it in 2d is pretty quick, just a few subtractions and a division. also, i have no idea how to do it in 3d. 

In that case, your method is in fact better (and faster). 

it totally is a case of hackery such that it only works in one specific way. i'm not smart enough to generalize it to work for all cases. ^_^; 

the essence I want to achieve in all my mods is sort of cartoonish style so when I reach a certain level of detail previously planned I stop.

this is my method of mapping or else you could never get any map finished!

..hmm actually I never published anything til now :) 

Hi. Second beta of my Deep Scars map. It's suppose to be RC now, meaning there are clips, item layout should be final, ligting and textures were fixed in few places and so on. Will appreciate any feedback :).

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16372046/q1shw2_b2.zip 

Check the skull textures. Some of them are cut off in the middle. The stretched textures on all all 45 degree walls look bad. I don't like the base floor textures here; the grey/blue one was better (contrast). There's also another 4*4 tile floor texture in brown.
One thing you got to keep in mind when using 32 unit tiles on the floor is to make sure the dimensions are right on every floor, otherwise they'll be cut off which looks wrong. An example for this is the floor under the GL. However, this can be easily fixed by making the edge trim 32 units wide and replacing the upper texture with metal4_4.
Also note that metal4_4 has distinct seams on each side - this means it has to rotated according to the adjacent brushes.
There's a rogue space behind a brick recess near the lower RL.

The stairs look a bit out of place. They were okay in the first map, but not so much here. Maybe change the texture, or put 16-wide ramps on each side of them.

I think there is too much health. Or at least too unevenly distributed. Quite a few spots that have 2*25 medkits but are also in relatively close proximity to more medkits. Maybe one of the large health boxes from the lower floor up to the LG, and the other ones a bit more spread out, or something. 

Hehe all were complaining about that floor texture before :). I liked it better too, maybe will get it back then. Will look into stuff you mentioned. 

Or try a completely different texture. I only meant there should be some contrast between floor and walls, which the present base floor doesn't offer. 

 

Sorry for a little off topic, but I just wanted to show you two new maps introduced with Quake Live february update ;).

Concrete Palace:
http://shadowsdomain.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/ql_concretepalace_01.jpg

Dies Irae:
http://shadowsdomain.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/ql_diesirae_01.jpg

More about it:
http://shadowsdomain.wordpress.com/] 

Post missing on your blagh. 

http://shadowsdomain.wordpress.com/
^should work 

Nice work/congrats as usual, ShadoW. Dies Irae seems to be one of the few QL maps with a unique theme, however also somewhat samey colorwise. The design of the maps feels good, though I would have wished for some more refined ceilings and also more sophisticated (less flat) transitions between upper geometry and sky.
You really seem to like that staircase design. 

Under some train tracks
The weird blue metal things are the trains. I haven't textured them properly yet :p

Train yard area in WC :E
Doesn't look like much in game atm, but it's a fun amount of entities I suppose...


Decided to play with the Ikbase set for a change
I really liked the quiet bits of OUM, so going for that kind of feel I think :E 

:O 

anyone ever mixed ikbase with ikblue? i reckon it'd work, esp if it's 70% ikbase and 30% ikblue. 

sounds interesting. i'm all for doing unique combinations.

been trying koohoo/heretic2 + ikbase which isn't bad. 

Could equal elder world awesomeness! 

Since you're talkin about textures.. I need to know about possible legal issues

..i mean all Quaddicted wads are free to use ? Should I credit the authors or not ? And what if I make a commercial project ?

tHaNk 

But I think you can use all of those wads. Some contain some permissions stuff in the info/readme, and it is good manners to put a credit with any public releases for everyone who 's work you used, but you never hear about anyone getting onto any trouble over using quake wads.

If you were using them for commercial purposes then I guess that's a whole different ball game. You would have to check any permissions info you can find for all of your resources, and take if from there I guess... Never been in that situation. 

Unless commercial use is explicitly allowed and you are certain about the legal background of the content, you can use it.

Many of the WADs at Quaddicted are actually content copied from other games. Violating copyright. No right holder ever cared so that has been done since the dawn of Quake levels. You definitely cannot use those for a commercial project.

id Software also does not allow use of their art for commercial projects.