#7270 posted by Breezeep_ on 2014/02/26 21:13:04
seems unfortunate that Thief reboot was a disappointment.
Yet Another Wonderful Review From Angry Joe!
#7271 posted by Breezeep_ on 2014/02/26 23:44:10
#7272 posted by [Kona] on 2014/02/27 01:13:07
That's pretty funny. I was crying with laughter at around 15mins when he gets to the final level and that scene where he dies and has a rampage over it.
I just don't understand why developers are still doing QTE's in games. Are many developers these days not real gamers?
#7273 posted by necros on 2014/02/27 05:06:40
I just don't understand why developers are still doing QTE's in games. Are many developers these days not real gamers?
Isn't it a cost thing? Must cheaper to make a cinematic that requires you to hit a few buttons to decide which of the 2 ending clips play rather than coding up some monster attacks and getting it tested.
Lasted 10 Seconds Of His Ranting.
#7274 posted by Shambler on 2014/02/27 10:47:05
Too desperately try-hard for me. Inflection and expressions nearly cringed me to death.
#7275 posted by [Kona] on 2014/02/27 11:50:00
Angry Joe is an acquired taste.
#7276 posted by ijed on 2014/02/27 12:21:36
Are many developers these days not real gamers?
Developers themselves are, but it's rare that the people in charge play games.
#7277 posted by JneeraZ on 2014/02/27 14:47:34
Time constraints. Nobody really WANTS to use QTEs but the game is behind and we're not going to ship on time and ... fuck it, press X to win.
For Those Getting Psyched For Krad Louss 2:
#7278 posted by Shambler on 2014/02/27 15:10:25
Hahaha
#7279 posted by DaZ on 2014/02/27 15:44:44
That's a great review. I found myself agreeing almost 100% with it.
The learning WALL at the start of the game is what put me off the first time I tried the game. I didn't have a clue how the game worked. When I played it on stream I took the time to read the wiki and ov. chat helped a lot too and it turned into a fantastic game and one of my favourite 3rd person action games ever.
Pumped for DS2
#7280 posted by - on 2014/02/27 17:31:12
QTE exists because it lets you script a fantasy of player interaction that you can't possibly do as regular gameplay.
Done well and sparingly, it's not the most terrible thing to happen in games... but it's been overdone to death by now and more often than not it's in lieu of gameplay instead of supplementing it.
Willem
#7281 posted by skacky on 2014/02/27 17:57:42
Concerning AI:
- They seem to be oblivious to everything that's above their heads, even if you're in broad daylight.
- They lose your trail very easily.
- At one point I replicated something I saw on a stream: I fought a guard in the brothel mission next to a courtesan and a client, and both of them didn't care at all. What's worse is that the guards downstairs didn't hear a thing. In the originals even the tiniest disturbance could make the whole houseguard come after you.
#7282 posted by [Kona] on 2014/03/03 06:43:17
Played through Darksiders now (and reviewed it). Pretty cool game, 8/10. Wicked characters, story, epic large design. Just the puzzles ruined it a bit. Shame the studio closed down because they were capable of doing some really great games.
#7283 posted by Spirit on 2014/03/03 10:42:29
Tower Of Guns On RPS
#7284 posted by Lunaran on 2014/03/05 20:03:47
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/03/05/wot-i-think-tower-of-guns
Tower of Guns is very silly and it�s mostly very enjoyable as well, playing out like a blended distillation of old-school FPS systems and the current obsession with procedural everything.
The most important piece of advice, as in Quake or UT deathmatch, is to keep moving at all times ... Tower Of Guns requires you to keep your reticule steady while dodging hundreds of projectiles.
I am listening.
There�s a toybox full of arena designs, varying from walkways hanging over lava or infinite drops, to complex structures dotted with teleporters and boost pads.
Immediately, as the door closes behind you, enemies appear all around each chamber.
I am no longer listening.
Seen A Bunch Of Folk
getting all giddy about how this game is like old school fps games. As someone who plays old school fps games all the time I have to think that maybe a lot of journalists play so many of these shitty new games they have forgotten what an old school fps game feels like to play.
It's sad really. Tower of guns looks ok but it's a procedurally first person bullet hell game. It has more in common with ikaruga than doom.
BHL
#7286 posted by Lunaran on 2014/03/06 04:00:48
I think after Half-Life came out everyone's memory of what games were like before that kind of warped into this image of "they didn't know any of the rules we have now so everything must have been shit and we just didn't know it." Rather than inhabit a world where it was okay for the level designer to directly use the level to interact with the player, apparently all anyone remembers Doom actually doing is seal you in a giant thoughtless arena, lock the doors, and spawn guys until it was time to open the doors again and let you into the next, bigger arena.
Did Doom *ever* actually do that, even once? Quake only did it once IIRC, in that long slow elevator ride to hell (so it didn't even have locked doors, just a natural timer).
Yeah
#7287 posted by ijed on 2014/03/06 13:16:57
Doom, and by extension, Quake didn't just define the genre because they were first.
Old == Bad to the lazy minded, whereas comparing most modern games, in terms of content and creativity to in games from the 90's is pretty depressing.
Games have taken a serious downturn since they went mass market; the industry is still incredibly immature in this respect.
A good comparison is film. Studios will gamble billions of dollars on a production, and sometimes they lose.
Games studios wouldn't dare take such a risk, and with the cash cow of casual gaming they don't have to.
The small publisher / lone developer ('indie' is a misnomer) scene keeps struggling on, producing the majority of the genuinely creative content.
If games like Doom are misrepresented by the slack jawed gaming press then that's a shame - the young whipasnapper developers of tomorrow are growing up on such poor journalism.
#7288 posted by JneeraZ on 2014/03/06 16:58:50
"Did Doom *ever* actually do that, even once?"
It did at least once. There's an exit trick where you go to press the button and, oops, floor drops out - combat bowl!
#7289 posted by - on 2014/03/06 17:02:42
Lun: you may be on to something there. I keep seeing people referring to older FPS games as 'arcade shooters'... and I think they actually think that Doom and such were 3d versions of Robotron or SmashTV
Relevant
#7290 posted by Kinn on 2014/03/06 17:41:07
#7291 posted by Lunaran on 2014/03/06 18:17:42
It did at least once. There's an exit trick where you go to press the button and, oops, floor drops out - combat bowl!
Yeah, I had that one in mind, but it signals itself as a trap (it's too early for the exit and you're carrying unused keys) and you're free to just dash across the room and leave by the escape route so I held off on mentioning it. It isn't really an arena with rounds of monsters, just a nasty 270-degree ambush.
"Let's lock the player in a big room and just spawn guys for a while" is like the level designer throwing up his hands and admitting he can't think of anything.
Modern Games Don't Have Levels
#7292 posted by czg on 2014/03/06 18:54:49
They have environments and combat encounters, and never shall the two meet.
LOL.
#7293 posted by Shambler on 2014/03/06 20:10:04
Too wise czg.
Pffft...
#7294 posted by Kinn on 2014/03/06 20:59:59
You old dinosaurs and your "Games". These days we prefer to call them "Experiences".
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