One thing I really liked about Thief was it was rigid in it's rule set. If you knew the rules, you could exploit them or get screwed over, but you always knew it was fair.

The light gem was the best example. If that gem was black, a guard could be 2 inches from your face and WILL NOT SEE YOU. That's a pact the game makes with you, and it never breaks it. Don't move and they won't spot you. Period.

I loved that. It felt honest and when you got busted, it was your own fault for not being careful enough. 

Good point really. Comprehensible mechanics are crucial. 

Completely. I really dislike when games teach you something and then, haha, surprise! they take it away for some arbitrary reason for a boss fight or whatever.

Solid, repeatable, and dependable mechanics are the core foundation of a game. 

Should I play first?

BTW: Galactic Princess (looks like FTL on crack)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/19027642/galactic-princess?ref=discovery 

Because it's the best of the bunch. 

Thief Gold is absolutely incredible IMO.

I wasn't massively keen on Thief 2, not a big fan of the Mechanists at all. I really enjoyed Thief 3 though, Shalebridge Cradle was awesome. 

t3 looks great and great story. t1/t2 might be getting a bit visually too dated to enjoy, if it was me. but i suppose you're not playing for the graphics. 

This is the best POV adventure game I've played in a long time, even though it can be buggy with Windows 7 & 8. 

Thief 2 fo' lyfe. 

Got this couple of weeks ago. Much smoother gameplay than Shadow of Chernobyl and the new way of detecting anomalies and the way stashes are done is more interesting and fun.
No crashes either. I think it's unfair to judge a game's stability based on how it plays with mods. It's completely stable as stock. 

Thief Gold, HD textures - anyone tried it that is familiar with original look ? Total desecration or well done ?
http://www.moddb.com/mods/thief-gold-hd-texture-mod 

I'd advise against, it's not faithful at all in most cases. 

If it's anything like other HD texture mods in games, I'm sure it'll just be a load of garish programmer art, made in FilterForge or something. 

A lot of the thief textures were already photosourced in most instances, so it's not going to ruin the aesthetic compared to quake (where most of the textures were hand painted) 

They look nice, but high res textures on low res geometry is always a bit jarring imo. Plus you can already see misalignment in the screenshots and so on. 

If you haven't already, check out Dracula: The Path of the Dragon. That game sure offers some in-depth, head scratching puzzles that actually require referencing notes and files you gather along the journey, piecing together information presented in the area and less guessing what the developer intended. I personally enjoyed this one a ton. Knowledge of the previous two games in the series is not required and this being the strongest title of the trilogy. 

that was me... really need to remember to put my name on that textbox. 

I found the earlier games in the series had more interesting visuals, but I agree on the gameplay of that title. There was also a short, but attratctive title from called 1953: KGB Unleashed 

Nice timing, Thief Gold is available for free at https://www.thiefmodcompetition.com/ 

Has anybody got this to work? I submitted the form but got nada :( 

Surprised no one mentioned this yet, but a pre-order of the new Wolfenstein game grants you access to the Doom 4 beta:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-19-doom-4-is-alive-pre-order-wolfenstein-the-new-order-to-get-in-the-beta 

More about the Thief contest here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_vg_n19o3z&docId=1001928521

So would In the Shadows count as a mod "based upon the videogame franchise Thief"? If sock remixed some of his ItS promo videos a bit, for category 1 of the contest, I'll bet he could be a contendah! 

is pretty neat.

https://www.humblebundle.com/

Some decent games in there. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQ06wMVhCc

But the monsters look fucking cool, some of them at least. 

wow, a trailer that actually shows something about the game. looks like it might be fun!