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I *somehow* (read : through utter stupidity) managed to delete all trace of the file s_explod.spr from my quake directory, I've even looked inside pak0.pak and it aint there, its all very odd and now I cannot play my beloved Quake :( Could someone please e-mail me the file??? My email address is in my profile.
http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/tooltips.txt\
Texture flicker while playing, "zebra-effect" This is normally caused by the engine trying to render several textures in the same plane, typically at some distance away. This is probably caused by overlapping brushes or e.g. a door that isn't sufficiently encapsulated. In GL-engines you can also try setting the cvar "gl_ztrick 0". when i try to load map with a fitzquake it crashes with allocblock:full what does it mean?
excessive lightmaps (90,normal =64) what does is mean, how can i reduce it? (the map has 1543 point ents, 118 solid ents) are lightmaps
only light ents, or every ent on map, ie mosters,ammo,light etc? Lightmaps are generated for every BSP surface that accepts lighting. Basically, I think that error means you have too many faces in your BSP. Delete some brushes to reduce your lightmap useage.
Increase texture scale. The bigger a texture is scaled up the less it requires in light.
Chances are you've got a void map with a large box enclosing the level. Sky brushes can have a texture size of 9999x9999 and look exactly the same in the game. You can also do this to trigger and clip brushes - though I'm not sure if they affect lightmaps. Aside from this noclip outside the map and look for hollow spaces that aren't meant to be drawn, but are. Sometimes there can a wafer thin chunk of enclosed space that's adding to the compile times of the level. there are 7076 brushes,it seems i can't delete
some brushes 'cos of level architecture, the map is only loadable in aguirre's glquake, maybe tyrquake others crashed afaik. (excessive marksurfaces ==39268 of 32767) (excessive clipnodes ==48060 of 32767) also what's benefit of using txqbspbjp over treeqbspbjp it's not a void map, quite big though (almost 4096/4096 :) also there's no big box enclosing the level, it has no leaks also. compile time is qbsp~4min,light-full~30min, vis full~40min :)
reduces lightmaps (on large triggers), yes. They aren't affected by clip though. Sky textures are always drawn with a minimum of surfaces regardless of their scale (assuming you're using a somewhat modern compiler), unless they intersect with other brushes. Upscaling the sky is only important if it's made of a simple (solid) texture.
Also watch out not to have the sky cover large faces of adjacent brushes (if using transparent sky), for these count towards lightmaps as well. I guess if the map requires a high-limit engine anyway, you don't really have to bother with optimizing lightmaps.
Title: "Tower of Dal Gurak"
40529 faces 7076 brushes 1662 entities 103 unique texnames 7522 texinfo 8 texture frames added Building hulls sequentially... Processing hull 0... ---- Brush_LoadEntity ---- 6722 brushes ---- CSGFaces ---- 37900 brushfaces 28040 csgfaces 22457 mergedfaces ---- SolidBSP ---- 54241 split nodes 26168 solid leafs 27198 empty leafs 876 water leafs 96502 leaffaces 90736 nodefaces *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (-880 1883 332) *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (-884 1887 520) *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (1025 -2924 -1632) ---- FillOutside ---- 9540 outleafs ---- MergeAll ---- 19464 mergefaces ---- SolidBSP ---- 12630 split nodes 7517 solid leafs 4895 empty leafs 219 water leafs 34874 leaffaces 27869 nodefaces ---- Portalize ---- *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (-1708 592 887) *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (1000 -2910 -1344) *** WARNING 12: New portal was clipped away in CutNodePortals_r near (1116 -3263 -1968) 5114 vis leafs 13598 vis portals ---- Tjunc ---- 28552 world edges 98877 edge points 24014 edges added by tjunctions 0 faces added by tjunctions ---- MakeFaceEdges ---- ---- GrowRegions ---- Processing hull 1... Processing hull 2... *** WARNING 30: Clipnodes 48060 exceed normal engine max 32767 *** WARNING 31: Marksurfaces 39268 exceed normal engine max 32767 ---- WriteBSPFile ---- 16021 planes 320420 41374 vertexes 496488 15826 nodes 379824 7522 texinfo 300880 31680 faces 633600 48060 clipnodes 384480 7503 leafs 210084 39268 marksurfaces 78536 147534 surfedges 590136 75477 edges 301908 111 textures 2360748 lightdata 0 visdata 0 entdata 131911 >I guess if the map requires a high-limit engine anyway, you don't really have to bother with optimizing lightmaps.
but the problem is the map is loadable in aguire's gl, it's seems many ppls prefer fitzquake usage (i don't mind when i'll release the map it'll require ONLY aguirre's engine, but this not solution) I can take a look at it. But with such a high marksurfaces/clipnodes count, it's unlikely the map will ever run in Fitzquake anyway.
According to my humble experience, it will also depends on the level of occlusion of the map. You can exceed the limits if not all the map is rendered at the same time by the engine. Fullvis the map, and try to load it in FitzQuake: you'll have the answer then...
it's already fullvised, and its crashed in fitzquake alas, dp also has troubles, the only
engine can load it's aguirre's gl, for me it's not a problem as i using only aguirre's eng. but other ppl prefer something differnt maybe >neg|ke check yourmail AguirRe's engine only for your map.
Thats it. People wont mind too much, as long as you write it clearly in the news post and in the Readme. I like your map, it'll do well. But you'll never cut it down it work in FitzQuake. To many limits are exceeded. MAPPERS - KNOW YOUR LIMITS ! I wander what sort of discussions were held between AguirRe and Kinn when The Marcher Fortress was released... GlMarcher.exe??!?! Where did I see a reference to your Industrial themed texture set? I've been looking all over for it and kind find anything. I think I read about it on one of the Quake Expo sites...
Anyone help? :-D
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