@So Rangers Name's Jim?
#46 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/16 22:46:58
Agreed, one of my all time favourites. Must have played it 10-15 times. Agree about 37th Relic Retrieval as well. Not sure if all good AD maps must be in the main release, but it's an amazing map.
I Also Vote For 37th Relic!
#47 posted by Icaro on 2020/10/16 23:25:32
and also to ad_heresp1- Oxyblack Fortress and ... oh god ! there are many : sp_maxx, heresp5_rev, ad_beep1m2,
At the end of this day I've found 15/16 shards, 12/16 secrets and 389 kills. Where's the last one, you know which one I mean?
If you've found 15 shards, then you must have entered at least one of the portals from the other way around. Did you try this with both of them?
16/16
#49 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/17 00:49:08
Finally found the last secret in ad_tears. Must have spent a couple of hours just hunting the last ones.
Speaking of secrets, does anyone have a 100% demo of Arcane Adamantine? I must have played it 5 times, but there are several secrets I can't figure out - plus I can't find all those grids to destroy either. Frustrating.
Arcane Adamantine
#50 posted by Gioyo3aa on 2020/10/17 09:29:55
Here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFgLFBaLZU
I gave up on the last secret in "Tears ...", although I killed everyone. I assume there is a way to visit the circular hall surrounding the final area of the True Source, but I haven't found it (and that may not be a secret anyway).
With all this well-deserved talk about Bal's map, let's not forget Pulsar's. I had the same feeling about it being a mini-Sepulcher, and its placement in the hub is therefore very fitting. I searched for the Swamp Key for such a long time... but in the end managed to find all secrets. The map has way more to offer than might appear at first, and also reminded me of ionous' map from a recent jam (forgot the title, it's the one you can choose to either exit pretty quickly or explore thoroughly to find its many, many secrets).
Speaking of ionous and Pulsar, Leptis Magna is one of my all-time favourites, and I'd be very happy to see the result of another collaboration.
@arkngt
don't have the demo, but here's 100% walkthrough on youtube. https://youtu.be/3aFgLFBaLZU
@Gioyo3aa
> I assume there is a way to visit the circular hall surrounding the final area of the True Source, but I haven't found it (and that may not be a secret anyway).
Blast Belt + Rocket Launcher + Quad may do wonders.
Leptis Magna is the masterpiece, one of the best maps out there.
If you do a full metroidvania approach to level design, probably you should add triggers to display territory/room names, just like with secrets in ad_tears but they appear every time you visit them, like area names in WoW when you approach them.
Tnx
#54 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/17 11:47:54
@Gioyo3aa & @So Rangers name's Jim?, much appreciated!
@Gioyo3aa
#55 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/17 11:52:59
What @So Rangers name's Jim? said. There's a quad on the cliffs outside the arena, which seems to be placed there just for that. The gallery doesn't count as a secret.
#53
#56 posted by gila on 2020/10/17 11:58:38
I agree about the zone/area names!
Not to mention that the secrets actually kind of display that, although only once, for example "North Tower Top" or "The Lost Tunnel".
Forgot to mention but I liked the metroidvania style where items allow access to new areas.
A Couple Of Questions
#57 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/18 00:10:00
First off, Arcane Adamintine was really elevated by finding all breakable grids and unlocking the secret behind the place. Can't believe I've played it for years without succeeding doing so (especially as the grids I've been missing were in plain sight).
Anyway, the custom HUDs have made me switch to QuakeSpasm Spiked as I really like the Quake Champion-inspired HUD. Is there a way to lock the HUD so it always is the one you want? As it is, I have to set it to my favorite each time I load the game. Not a big deal of course.
Also, is it possible to turn of the particles for the weapons somehow? I kind of like everything else in AD Spiked, but the weapon particles are not my cup of tea, plus the effects can make it more difficult to actually see the enemies you are firing at.
Lastly, I have an odd issue with the sound with AD 1.8. It often sound like it's ”too loud”, resulting in distortion. In AD 1.7 I don't have the issue. I compared the start map of Arcane Monstrosity in both and with 1.8 it sounds distorted and ”too loud” as said, while it sounds just fine in 1.7.
It's weird as I have no idea what might be causing it. The settings seems identical when checking the configs.
Woo
#58 posted by bal on 2020/10/18 00:35:42
Hey everyone, thanks for the all the kind words!
Spreading out the credit a bit for my map, it wouldn't be what it is without Sock, Makkon and Markie, powerful Code/Texture/Music wizards.
arkngt : Custom huds, you can edit quake.rc in the mod folder, look for sratch1 and put the HUD you like best there.
Not sure you can disable just the weapon particles, but in that same file you can switch back to old-style particles by setting temp1 to 512.
No idea about the sound issues! I don't think AD is doing anything specific there... sounds more like random engine issues... :(
Gioyo3aa : There's a way to reach the circular hall in the Sanctum without rocket-jumping, but haven't seen anyone do it yet (you only get one chance to get to it).
Thanks for everyone reporting bugs (even spelling mistakes), if/when there's a future patch we'll fix as much as we can.
Another Problem With Classic Quake Campaign.
After beating Shub game won't return to start map, player is locked in camera looking on ranger and game doesn't allow to do anything, basically game-breaking glitch. This was on standard quakespasm.
#59
#60 posted by gila on 2020/10/18 09:39:34
I think that's how it was in original game. It's the very final end of the game, so there was no point of making player go back to start.
Another issue I reproduced twice is that if you teleport at the wrong time when the spiked sphere is not going through Shub, it (sphere) will stop right before Shub and just hang there rotating in place, preventing from successully telefragging it even if you do get out of lava and try again.
17/10 Playthrough Of Bals Map
Re: Sound Issues
#62 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/18 12:18:29
@Bal, thanks, I'll edit it in quake.rc!
Regarding the sound issues, I've recorded two short clips to show the difference. This is with QSS, but it's the same with QS and vKQuake.
First, how it sounds with AD 1.8:
https://youtu.be/S1lAZd5_HEU
Second, the same with AD 1.7:
https://youtu.be/PQpqlr7oQcI
The settings for sound seem to be the same in both cases. Weird.
Longer Clip
#63 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/18 12:34:58
Slightly longer clip with the sound issues:
https://youtu.be/gJJdooHRmCw
Arkngt
#64 posted by bal on 2020/10/18 12:37:01
It's hard to compare those 2 vids, cause the 1.8 metmon has an extra ambient sound at the start (that pulsing sound, which is indeed clipping in your vid).
That sounds does clip quite a bit when I put the volume too high, what is your volume at?
Ad_akalakha Swamp Key
#65 posted by mtk on 2020/10/18 12:47:14
any idea where I can find the swamp key in ad_akalakha?
6/10 secrets atm.
@Bal
#66 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/18 13:10:41
I have the sound at max and music at a third, but it doesn't help to lower the sound either in Quake or Windows (or both).
I have the same issue in the final arena of ad_tears, which also have some kind of pulsating sound IIRC. It's as if that sound overwhelms everything, making all sounds distorted.
#67 posted by arkngt on 2020/10/18 13:23:17
Guess clipping is a more correct term.
I want another kind of jump boots or smth, which makes you dash forward. Kinda like in Doom Eternal (Bloodshot did some similar feature in Slayer's Testaments Quake Mod), so you could gain some instant forward momentum, basically jump module from Half-Life, simplyfiyng bunnyhopping start and allowing to GO FAST, and NOT slowing down to base speed after landing/dash stop. This was actual feature in SlayerTest, they scrapped it, but imo you could make whole maps built around this long speedy jumps(inb4 Tribes/defrag/xonotic).
@AN
It's seen right from your spawning position in the beginning, if you know exactly where to look.
Jump Boots: Cont.
I seen that in test map with grappling hook, when you use jump boots with hook they propel you forward instead of upward, I want that effect in regular jump boots, probably on different key.
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