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So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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I Fail To See How 
This strategy is supposed to succeed. If you are relying on the strength of a brand then you use the strengths and core aspects of said brand in the game.

Syndicate was an abomination. 
Mm 
Deus Ex HR was pretty good in my opinion, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for Thief. Obviously it'll be quite "modernized", but it still might end up being a good game. 
Err 
you did see quake 1-4 right, each not at all like the last? 
 
The thing is the old-time fans of Thief think this game is going to be a turd and most of the profane audience think this is some kind of edgy Dishonored knock off. Most of the reviewers also seem to think the game is meh at best. I honestly highly doubt this game will be successful. 
 
yeah, but there's not that many old-time thief fans in the grand scheme of things.
the biggest problem is getting someone to give you money to develop your game. if you throw a title that has made money in the past at them, they are more likely the green-light it.
that's why you see all those 'reboots' of old films.

my only problem is that it just sounds like more lowest common denominator fare, but that is the price you pay when you go AAA. (hey, that rimes!) 
 
thief is a niche market game. not everyone likes stealth, especially those that played the originals and will like it more because of nostalgia. sounds like they're trying to get out of that niche to make more money from the console gamers. I don't know if it's the right choice, could be... the modern console gamer is a fucktard, afterall.

but I seem to remember the old thief having a great story (well, thief3 that is) so I don't know what they're going on about saying this isn't 1998 anymore and games need a story. 
It'll Probably Be Balls 
But will still sell moderately well. 
 
Well I'll defs play it, but I won't be eagerly awaiting it. I'm certain they won't be able to top Thief3.

Anyway, played a couple more games this week. Section 8: fucking 3 hours of crappy bot matches. 5.0/10

Then Bionic Commando - great game, 8.5/10.
Reviewed here http://etherealhell.com/etherealhell/reviews/2013/bionic_commando.php

By the way, is GTA4 worth playing? I forgot about it, but just watching over some reviews of it, it looks pretty poor graphics. Definitely hasn't aged well for a 2008 game. Although it is a city, and there's only so good a modern city can actually look. I'm not sure I need to sit through a 30 movie/game filled with meaningless minigames when there's plenty other RPG's since then. Unless it's had some good graphic enhancement mods. 
 
Actually re gta4, sounds like everyone on metacritic says the pc version is a buggy mess. Good, I can cross that off my list I didn't really want to play it anyway haha 
 
It's a good game, I enjoyed it at least. Doesn't seem overly buggy to me and it looks fine on PC (plus there are graphics mods). I think most people are probably just biased in their evaluation due to the DRM and not so much because of actual shortcomings of the game itself. If this type of game is your thing, it's well worth a try. If you're more into tight-packed action games with no leeway inbetween, skip it. 
GTA4 
During the Steam Summer sale I almost picked it up, but a couple people I know said it ran awful on PC unless you have a really good system, far beyond it's recommended specs.

I have it on 360 anyway, and grew tired of it quickly. I'm not sure what it was, but something about it missed what made the GTA3 line of games so fun to just dick around in. Haven't gotten GTAV yet, not sure how that compares. 
I've Had GTA4 On The PC Since It Launched. 
The main story is OK, the main character becomes irritating after a while. I've been playing the Lost and Damned DLC, that is more like it :)

TBH GTA4 seems to run nicely these days, I guess the drivers have improved since it came out.

And the performance thing - it really is highly scale-able. The console counterpart graphics are about equal to medium/low settings on the PC, the PC version has higher-res textures, bigger draw distance potential and a highly enhanced lighting option.

I would recommend it, don't dismiss it. It's true there were a lot of bugs when it released. But it runs fine now.

I've got an i5 2500K and a 5850, and it runs FINE. :) 
BioShock 
One of the best games I've ever played. Very happy I got it on sale from Steam for $4.99

I'm beginning to think it's a little too long though.

Also, I had a heck of a time getting it to actually run on my PC. Took about an hour of googling and fiddling around with software.

Apparently, BioShock has problems with various sound setups. In my case it turned out that the driver built into Windows 7 for the VIA sound chip on my PC's motherboard won't work. Why? I don't know, I've never had any other game have this problem. BioShock refuses to start.

I had to install the VIA driver and even then it was necessary to change an obscure recording setting (Stereo Mix) before the game would run. Weird.

Excellent game though. 
Bioshock 
Is great, but the games get progressively worse with each new version. The best critique I heard of infinite was from penny arcade's extra credits, a video called in service to the brand. 
Link 
In The Category Weird Shit 
I Like That Game 
Interested in this:
http://candybox2.net/ 
Ugh, This One Is Strangely Addicting 
Bioshock 
Is great, but the games get progressively worse with each new version.

Then it's probably good that I only bought 1&2 for $4.99 each and avoided Infinite for the $15 or whatever it was on sale for.

I haven't played much of anything but Quake, Fallout 3 and New Vegas for the last several years, so I'm a bit behind on games and I don't like to pay more than $10 for older stuff.

I did buy Far Cry 3 for $20 a couple of months ago. What a rip off. That game kind of sucked. I quit about halfway through. 
 
Play System Shock 2! 
Infinite 
Is still good I suppose, but I wouldn't play it twice.

The best bit for me was the story... And I still think that the first game had a better story / presentation of it.

Would you kindly play through to the end and post your opinion? 
 
Tried to play Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising today. What a load of crap that is. Quit after 1.5 levels. I don't like tactical shooters, but even then would have put up with it if it had a quicksave and the zoom worked. Can't play without zoom though since enemies kill you with a single bullet from a kilometer away.

I liked Bioshock's design, but the gameplay wasn't that great. Not being able to die ruined it. 
Bioshock 
Yes, excellent game, but I found the combat subsystem a little messy. Id software still does better combat, no matter what you think about Rage etc.

It just isn't very tight, there is a lot of setting people on fire and other pseudo magic crap that just distracts from the shooting, which in itself is unsatisfying. The guns don't really have enough oomph to them.

The game also gets a little linear towards the end. I'm not a fan of the ending.

There could have been a greater variety of Splicers for my taste, I've seen their old GDD where they had stuff like lobster mutants. I would have liked to see those.

Cool plot augmentations like the Saturnine could have been much more interesting. Sadly stuff like that (as well as the smugglers) remained footnotes in favour of an endless stream of the same Splicers, just with more health.

If your game has things like Incinerate 2 and Incinerate 3, just to deal with progressively higher hitpoint versions of the same enemies, then I'd say that is broken design. It is much better to introduce new, more dangerous types of enemies later in the game such as Vores, Hellknights and Tarbabies in Quake or Hellknights and Mancubi in Doom 3.

Bioshock got a bit samey after the first couple levels. Awesome setting though. 
 
Everything in Bioshock looks like it's made out of 'foam doll' material.
That puts me off so hard :/ could never get around how garish the art looks. It might sound strange but that really kills the experience for me. 
 
http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/ has to be one of the dumbest yet addicting "games" I know. What an idiotic concept. It's really just about making a number go faster. Interesting. 
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