Willem I like that building outside, the curves look good, need to see more of that style, i.e. cool structures rather than just relying on textures/details.

JPL, looks good, Madfox has a good point tho... 

Not a map, but a way to demo maps online.
http://qbism.com/_extfiles/ac.html

Will go out of my way for a rotfish, now, something about the sound. 

pretty cool... and you have transparent water too!

Is this a package that's easy to put together (given map x and demo y?)

Is there a way to set a smaller resolution (so you could embed it in a webpage the way youtube videos can be, rather than fullscreen? 

you wouldn't even have to download demos anymore, you could just watch them right in a release thread o.o 

It's not too hard, especially after setting it up the first time.

A wad is made with the map, demo, and data.
An IDE called FlashDevelop combines this with the engine, which has been precompiled to Flash.

The view window can be any size and imbedded in a web page.

The engine is an enhanced WinQuake based on the Makaqu engine and ported to Flash. Can play some big maps but not quite up to Marcher yet. 

You wouldn't even have to play the maps anymore, you could just watch them right in a release thread o.o 

thats pretty cool!! 

Spirit adds demo upload to quaddicted (or integrates with willem's upload site), and adds a way to embed flash for any map.

So basically youtube for quakedemos, you'd upload the demo and would get back an embed link.

in a month or two I even might volunteer for some coding. 

QuakeTube would be very cool.

Of course it also requires the bsp (and/or the required mod) to also be included in the map.

But if those are already hosted on the server, the user only needs to upload the demo still. 

Maybe this is already solved, but there probably needs to be a way for the embedded flash to pass its width and height into the software renderer so quake's video launches with the correct dimensions (so you don't get pixel scaling.) For small embeds (say 320x240) this would be much better than scaling down an 800x600 render, which would be both slower and not look as good. 

As it stands, video resolution can be modified, but it's baked into the Flash engine code. The web design and code would need to match to avoid pixel scaling.

To clarify, this Flash demo is a self-contained swf file with all needed data- pak, bsp, dem, progs.dat, etc. Nothing is 'streamed' from the server. 

So what i was wondering is if there's a way for the flash applet to pass height and width into the engine at runtime (perhaps when the flash initializes it needs to write out a vid_mode into a config file before the engine reads it?) Otherwise i guess you would need to pick a size at the time you are uploading the demo.

And the idea was that the user uploads a demo and the server generates a flash file (which would include the bsp and mod pakfiles if needed) but the user doesn't need to provide them if the server has them already (like quaddicted does.) 

Sorry, but it's useless in practice. We had this discussion when the first Flash Quake came out.

It starts with no legal way to do it unless you use fugly FOSS art. And it ends with a shitload of data being downloaded each and every time (maybe some HTML5 stuff could work around that).

Last but not least Flash is cancer and needs to die.

You can simply create things like http://www.quaddicted.com/tips-and-tricks/launching-maps-and-demos-with-a-doubleclick/ if you want an easy way to start demos. Or have an engine that can handle random files tossed at it. 

has the advantage that everybody can see it. I can show demos of great quake maps to my father, or my friends. Maybe we'd get more people into quake again ;-)

Legal problem: hm, I'm not into the q1 stuff, but I'm not sure it even is very different from distributing custom maps, so long as we don't allow demos on stock maps. Of course we need the models. Anyway, couldn't we ask ID if distributing the textures and models to play demos on single maps is a problem? There's not a lot of difference to a movie. 

an alternative is to simply generate an actual video and upload it to youtube. If we can magically generate flash applets surely we can magically generate a video. 

yeah, cant demos be made to output in avi or some other format? 

Extremely fast and easy (once jdhack finally releases his engine). 

Use videos. 

Quake demos in youtube will be awesome! 

 

who has the bandwidth and processing power? 

Your problem applies to flash quake solutions more than it does to video, really. 

Videos are better for the environment. Encoded once and then people can play them with very low cpu/gpu stress. I am only partly joking. Everyone has the bandwidth. 

You need a server that generates the video (lots of cpu and disk), encodes it, then uploads to youtube (lots of upload).

Or is the "huge file once" thing not that much of a problem? if a 30min demo recording is 500+mb (is that even acceptable quality?), then you could serve about 50-100 flash thingies for that.

also, does youtube have an API? 

You can simply create things like http://www.quaddicted.com/tips-and... if you want an easy way to start demos.

i got four words into that article.