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Posted by Mr Fribbles on 2008/06/21 10:02:02 |
This isn't really aimed at anyone in particular. Have you noticed though, that in affluent countries at least, there's been a remarkable increase in the incidence of pathetic, self-absorbed whining and self-pity? You know what I mean... Wahh wahh, life is so hard, I'm a talented and unique little snowflake, and yet everybody hates me and doesn't appreciate me...
FUCK OFF AND GET OVER YOURSELF! You're a fragile little bag of meat and bones with just enough intelligence to fuck up your own miserable life and then be depressed about it for the rest of your days, is what you are. Accept it and move on.
Err, yes, sorry. Let's get back on track here. Now I'm not a particularly perceptive or observant person, and yet the answer is so bleeding obvious that even I can probably figure it out. Here's my theory, anyway: life is too easy.
Most of us don't have to worry too much about our most basic and important needs - food, shelter, avoiding predators, etc... day to day life is pretty damn easy. Most of us have to work for a living, but as long as you're earning enough to get by (luxuries aside), it's not really worth complaining about. Pretty much everybody has to do it.
If you're not sure where your next meal is coming from, your mind is going to be occupied trying to solve that problem. You're not going to piss and moan about inconsequential little things. If people have no genuine worries or concerns though, they seem to need to invent things to worry about!
Many people just can't seem to simply accept and enjoy life. I can't understand this. If all your basic needs are met, and you even have time and money to indulge in your own preferred leisure activities and hobbies, what's the fucking problem?
It's like people feel that they're bored or boring if they have no drama or conflict in their lives, so they have to invent shit to complain about, to entertain themselves or make themselves seem interesting. Maybe it's just a subconscious psychological thing where the mind needs to occupy itself somehow, so it gives itself something to worry about to keep the wheels spinning.
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... God Damn It
#43 posted by Tronyn on 2008/06/22 17:37:58
(buying CLOTHES) that was meant to read...
Ricky
You're obviously already realizing what a crock of shit you posted before, hence your backpaddling in post #41. Now you're saying exactly what Lun said: Society over-uses the term depression in situations where it isn't appropriate. The result of that is that people who are not really clinically depressed get treated with therapy or drugs, and there surely are a lot of people who could help themselves.
But to deny that real depression is a desease is downright cruel to anyone who has had to deal with clinical depression, be it in themselves or in their family or friends. I didn't read all what you wrote, but you mentioned you had reached "rock bottom" and pulled yourself out of it. That is not depression. Depression is when you are not able to help yourself, or even seek help from others.
I've seen it in my family, and if you had been clinically depressed in your past, you would simply not be talking like this. I'm not denying that you had a rough time in your life and that it was really hard for you. But you probably were not depressed.
#45 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/22 19:35:58
Depression is when you are not able to help yourself, or even seek help from others.
No, that sounds like uselessness. Giving up.
They are saying nowadays that dyslexia isn't a real disease. It's just a person who never learned to read properly. I wander how all those millions of people who were diagnosed dyslexic felt when they were told that?
Doesn't mean it's not true!
Also if any of my post's seemed like back-tracking, they weren't supposed to be. Maybe I'll use analogies or try to explain my POV using different terms, but at no point have I "taken back" anything I have said.
I mean it man. Depression my ass! Fuck depression, life's too short. The disease of modern society: - LACK OF FEAR
As in there is not enough fear in the world anymore to remind people what they are living for. Thats WHY people get depressed!
Check Wikipedia
#46 posted by ijed on 2008/06/22 20:14:15
I Mean
#47 posted by ijed on 2008/06/22 20:25:12
for the medical definition.
You can be as determined as you like, it's not going to change the chemical balence (or inbalence) inside your skull. More likely any determination you have will allow the illness to feed off itself.
But this thread was never about this topic.
Ricky
#48 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/22 23:30:35
Thanks Lun
#49 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/22 23:31:58
None Of This Shit
#50 posted by Blitz on 2008/06/23 01:30:07
None of this shit belongs on this board. No one here is an authority on anyone else's life, no one knows what each of us goes through every day when we wake up. Keep it to yourself next time Frib. If you really believe the answer to happiness in life is as simple as you've made it out to be here then you're as damaged as anyone who's whining from within the walls a mansion filled with beautiful women.
I'm as much a believer in the power of positive thinking as the next guy and I wish this board in particular was about 1000% more positive and less of a dumping ground for people's frustrations be they gaming related, Quake related or neither.
We're so small here that we should be pumping each other up, offering constructive criticism wherever possible, and generally being cool with each other. No one is going to stop you from acting like a total cunt if you want to, but you're never going to get anything productive out of it. On the other hand, if you offered advice and support and general well wishes you might see more than a trickle of output and make a friend or two.
I've roamed the halls of Internet long enough that I don't really give a shit if someone flames me or tells me I'm stupid or corrects me when I misspell vegina, but there are people who still do take it to heart. There are people on this board who don't visit the horrible forums and see the goatse man giving kisses to the Lemonparty dudes and aren't hardened shells of hate -- they're decent people who come on the internet with the rest of us to share their work.
I hold my tongue a lot when I see people being dicks on this board because I always just assume that everyone can brush it off but that's not the kind of place this should be. It's a lot harder to be patient and understanding than it is to be sarcastic and short with people but it always pays off in the end to be patient. Always.
We should be doing our best to keep it to Quake and games 99% of the time on this board, and if you can't or don't want to do that, at the very least just don't be dicks to each other.
*strums acoustic guitar*
Yay, Yay
#51 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/23 02:20:26
a thousand times yay
Blitz!
#52 posted by ijed on 2008/06/23 02:41:13
Yup
#53 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/23 02:52:03
#54 posted by pjw on 2008/06/23 02:57:09
Depression needs a doctor my ass!!!
You dont need drugs and therapy
Maybe you do need drugs and therapy
People DO get depressed, and DO need medical assistance.
at no point have I "taken back" anything I have said
Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up.
Its True
#55 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/23 03:00:35
nothing I say makes any sense
#56 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/23 03:06:27
in an insane world a sane person appears insane
Well Quite...
#57 posted by Shambler on 2008/06/23 09:53:36
we should be pumping each other up
I think CZG is your man for that...
Blitz
#58 posted by Spirit on 2008/06/23 10:38:09
Cheers!
You're Not Allowed Unhappiness
#59 posted by anonymous user on 2008/06/23 11:33:32
cause you have a blog.
Tells something about the writer's beliefs about happiness.
Hehe Yeah
#60 posted by megaman on 2008/06/23 11:45:46
wtf is it with people reacting so negative to negative expression?
The negative people mostly have a point. I think it's the people without arguments, who use this 'bah, you're only negative' shit as an excuse for not having to argue.
At least the people around me, who i'd categorize (yeah, i know, shut up) as most awake/aware of what's going on, are the 'negative' ones, and the 'negativity-complainers' are at the opposite end.
maybe it's time for the complainer-complainers shut up, because the complainers have a point and the complainer-complainers don't ;)
That said, i knew people, who were NOTHING BUT negative, and not complaining about 'real' stuff with arguments, but bitching about other people, etc. the only times they seemed to have fun were when they made fun of others. Those people sure as hell don't have a point ;)
#61 posted by czg on 2008/06/23 11:48:52
I wrote at least seven drafts here for messages where I called all of the people in this thread various names and made unfounded claims about their mothers, but in the spirit of being positive I deleted them all!
^ I Do That So Often
#62 posted by Spirit on 2008/06/23 12:08:33
since I realised that I want to be a happy person, not a grumpy loner.
Against My Higher Thought Processes
#63 posted by inertia on 2008/06/23 12:16:26
How To Disagree: http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html
Blitz: we are here originally for the gaming topics; but, we're also compadres, and necessarily want to talk about some other stuff besides q1 mappery.
Frib: the problem is systematized greed.
Ricky: go volunteer at a hospital.
#64 posted by JneeraZ on 2008/06/23 12:29:55
Anyone disagreeing that depression can be a real disease is a fucking idiot. Those people aren't lazy - they are clinically depressed.
And yes, sometimes doctors are quick to jump to a diagnosis and prescribe the wrong thing. They're human and they will miss things that seem obvious in hindsight. My doctor diagnosed me with carpal tunnel syndrome which, after reading a few books, I can say is wrong. What I have is RSI. Doctors are humans - always get a second opinion on something serious that might affect the rest of your life and your ability to enjoy it.
Fribulator
#65 posted by Vondur on 2008/06/23 15:47:24
nice thread!
fully agreed, boredom is a result of the narrowmindedness... people are unable to find anything that might interest them, so they go and grab a bottle and sit with it all day blaming the world in their unluck...
of course we live in the hard times, even if we don't need to hunt for food or fight for the shelter, our level of life kinda raised from the cavemen, but the life has become more....uhm intense. not everyone is able to accept this by their psyche, hence depressions. and it's really hard for such peope to find the way out of it. since we're tribal species by the nature, only closest firends are able to help in this situation. if one doesn't have good friends or relatives in his life, his life might become real challenge...
Once Again...
#66 posted by Shambler on 2008/06/23 16:52:51
From Russia With Love
hahaha!
To Summarize
#67 posted by JPL on 2008/06/23 18:25:13
.. stupidity is TEH disease of modern society :P
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