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Hmmm 
Sorry, the error message i gave isnt exactly what it said, I'm not in a position to re-try at the mo ;), I'll tell you what it said l8R.

Your nehquakebjp.zip only contains an exe called glquake (with nehahra icon), other files obviously but only the one exe! Weird really, I was expecting a nehquake.exe or something.

My nehahra.zip only contains nehahra.exe, I downloaded it within the last couple of months!

I have tried the level successfully with the original nehahra.exe, like it but the white lights look OK, very dark in places, like the funky monsters tho!

(rushed message, boss got back, sat with him in office! :-( ) 
Hm 
use aguirRe's nehquake engine.

isn't this windows-only? 
/me Inserts The Sheep In Inertia's Rectum To Stop The Bleeding 
 
Inertia 
Darkplaces is fully cross-platform, and has similar engine limits to aguirequake. 
 
Joequake should also be able to handle Nehahra
and there is a Linux version avalible too. 
I Wouldn't Recommend That 
JoeQ is otherwise a pretty nice engine, but it can't handle Nehahra properly:

- You can't play the whole game in one session (not even half), same for SON movie.

- You can't complete the boss map nehahra without massive packet overflows followed by an abort to the console.

- The entire upper area of neh3m3 is just one big packet overflow.

- The Neh cheat codes don't work, you'll have to use std id ones. This also means that you can't use these codes across a JoeQ client and another Neh server.

- The skybox in Invein is invalidly rotated, which is very obvious with the sun and lighting direction (this isn't JoeQ's fault though).

Possibly more that I forgot ... 
AguirRe's Tool And Coloured Lights 
Its just a shame that you light tool doesnt support coloured lighting. Have you ever considered creating a version of light that does? Im sure it would be the best light tool ever made for Quake!

There would be nothing stopping you would there, from running another lighting prog, say, tyrlite, to do the coloured light pass - generate the .lit, then run aguirRe's to use any of the other funky stuff you want. Just means running that part of the compile twice, but it's relatively quick isn't it. 
OK 
The coast is clear;

The error message I get when running Glquake.exe (extracted along with all of the other files in nehquakebjp.zip) along with ivein.bsp is (fanfare...)

Mod_LoadSpriteModel: sprites/explode1.spr32 has wrong version number (2 should be 1 or 32)

Doesnt matter wether I load it using glquake.exe -heapsixe 56000 -nehahra +map invein
or run the .exe and load the map from the console. 
Joequake Gives The Same Message 
But Nehahra.exe works fine! 
Oh And Plant 
I didnt know you could do that!!! More experimentation is coming up!!! 
 
Hmm I was able to play nehahra with Joequake.
The endboss too. Yes there is a massive packet overflow.
And as far as I know Qrack has fixed the packet overflow. Tried the testmap with Qrack and there was no packet overflow.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/12323/msd23-bsp.html


Apart from the sky Invein is no problem. 
 
I use joequake only for invein, because of the included lit file. 
Well, I'd Take Your Advice But 
I get the error message above! Anyone REALLY CLEVER wanna tell me how to fix it?

I maintain Nehahra.exe works OK 
Did You 
install the progs-update? 
 
You can try to start normal Joequake and type gamedir nehahra in the console 
Im Sorry Rudl 
I did actually get really excited when you said 'Progs update', and hit myself gently twice on the side of the head. So I found it, and grappled with fileplanet until it was MINE!

I also ran standerd Joequake, and typed 'gamedir nehahra' as you instructed, and the console background changed, but when I type 'map invein', it crashed with the same message!

I dont understand it though - it DOES work with Nehahra.exe. Also is there or is there not a file called DPNehahra.exe? Because I have read documentation that says there is, but I cant find such a file, not on Lordhavocs website, google, planetquake (nehahra) or anywhere!! Its a mystery! This computer is a good speck (1024mb, Dual Core, ATI 128mb, XP Home) 
 
I got the same error when I tried to play invein with
software joequake
Play it with joequake-gl 
I Am Using Joequake-gl.exe... 
Im glad you have had the same error though (well not really glad, but atleast I know that Im no going mad!!) ;) - Ill try software Joequake, just for the crack!! 
Try That 
-delete the nehahra\glquake dictionary
-make a backup of your config and delete it
-I can send you my config (if you want)
-download the newest version of JQ, build 1862
start jq-gl again 
Ok, Send It To Me 
Mail is in the post. I know it sounds a bit desperate, but I'm annoyed cause I should be able to get it to work 
Also Strange 
is that your console background changes, when you change gamedir ingame joequake usually takes the conback in the joequake\pak0.pak
Do you really have the newest version?

A mail is on the way. it contains a variables.txt
add this in your config after the key bindings and delete the rest
So you can keep your key binding 
ERm 
Am I supposed to save the file a c:\quake\joequake\config.cfg or what? 
NO 
Open your config.cfg in the nehahra dictionary with a txt editor and add the included text after the key bindings

JQ only uses the joequake/config
when you change gamedir ingame 
Plant 
AFAIK you can't mix light tools like that, the lit file is not self-contained.

I'd guess that the lit file contains offsets directly into the lightdata lump of the bsp, so if you run e.g. my Light after TyrLite, you'll just get psychedelic colour effects in an engine that loads the lit file.

Search QMap thread or Func_ for earlier discussions about this. 
Blimey 
This is an epic!

Rudl - No joy I'm afraid my man! Just gives the same old message! Thanks anyway tho

AguirRe - Thats a shame. Ill still put it to test later on, but I would assume that you know what you're talking about! ;)

All the more reason for you to make 'AguirRe's super duper lit-file generating modified light tool!' - Its just that you're engine with -extra4 -soft does give really nice rendering. So if it were possible to get Tyrlite to make the .lit and then use your Light to do the rendering it would kick!!

BTW do you have any kind of explanation for the message I report on #6650?

I get it with your Glquake (from nehquakebjp.zip) and Joequake, software and Gl 
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