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So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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Yeah, I have always liked the .pak system of Quake series (or similarly, .wad format of tech1). Tidy, simple and easy to figure out. I hate those games where thousands of files lay out in the open, in too many damned folders. 
 
The melee combat in teleglitch is seriously pissing me off. It is super hard to aim and apparently you have to actually hit the drunk monsters with your 2 pixel end of arm? 
 
Aren't PAKs essentially folders that cannot directly be accessed by the OS? The distinction always eluded me somewhat. I've never seen the big win in it to be frank. It's just as messy and complex, just hidden in a custom format. 
 
@Spirit: Yeah, melee is near impossible. I think it is not supposed to be used at all. By level 3 monsters are already attacking in swarms, so it is best to form a Trinailgun as soon as possible and use it as the fallback weapon instead of that puny knife (since you can also produce nails by scavenging).

@Spiney: Fair point. It might be a personal thing but I like .pak's better. Besides, you don't have to overwrite original stuff to utilize custom content - that may be the advantage of the system. 
 
What was great was the day I discovered that the Quake3 PAK files were ZIP format. Blew my mind... You can open them in any standard ZIP file editor. 
 
The overwriting can still be done by simply renaming the folder PAK2 etc. But I can certainly see why some people would prefer it. I think the difference is purely psychological. 
 
File system access is relatively slow; pak and other such formats allow you to open one file handle with the OS and then just read different chunks out of it. 
ROTT 2013. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YPQRE57hNQ

Other than the tiny player-to-level scale, this looks like the dog's bollocks. 
ROTT 2013 
That looks surprisingly fun.
I love how they kept those floating circular platforms, they make no sense at all in that warehouse level, who would use antigrav platforms where you can just have normal stairs, that's great. :)

ROTT is the first game I mapped for, plenty of fond memories from it. 
 
i like how you pick out the floating platforms as what's unrealistic. To me that entire level looks like any deathmatch map with industrial-themed textures with arbitrarily placed bridges and jump-pads and i had to go re-watch the video to see that it was even intended to look like a warehouse :) 
Spiney 
Apart from from tidiness and easy managability, having all files in containers speeds up access (no defragmentation) and (de)installation. Copying/moving a large number of individual files takes considerably longer than the same amount of data in few container files. 
 
No "fragmentation" obviously. 
Metl 
Yeah I agree, I just picked out the floating platforms because they were an important part of the original ROTT (you could only create any kind of vertical gameplay by placing them).

Honestly the level itself (layout, design, etc.) is pretty generic and doesn't look very good as far as deathmatch levels go, those random diagonal bridges made me cringe... 
Realistic Textures 
with 1997 brushwork and layouts is not a good look. It looks like a retexturing project. Gameplay looks nicely oldschool though. 
Borderlands 2 Deal 
Meh. There's a very nice deal on Amazon.com today (and only today): All Borderlands 2 diginal codes are off 67% - unfortunately only available to US customers. If some charitable Americano reads this, go buy me two keys for the BL2 Season Pass, would you ($9.99 each)? I can pay you back in USD or BSP. :>
And while you're at it, go grab the game for yourself, it's a lot of fun in coop. 
ROTT. 
Looks dire in pretty much every way. 
 
-fast oldschool gameplay
-$100 mln art budget

choose one 
I Think 
A valid criticism here is that the map layouts do actually look like pimply 1997 box-map arse.

Nothing to do with the "art".

I mean, really - the layout for the first map in that video is about as primitive and ugly as you can get. 
 
Scale is totally wrong, it looks like a shitty Quake1 engine putting way too many 'realistic' shaders on flat geometry, and even 'old school' gameplay wasn't '1 hit kills constantly'. Not to mention the level design is a shitty gimmick map that were played out even when RotT was new.

Sorry, making an 'old school' game doesn't mean 'make absolute shit'. 
 
the second map looks far better though. 
Negke 
you can buy games from Amazon even if oyu are outside of the US by putting in a fake US delivery address.

As what you are buying is digital, there is no issue with delivery obviously. 
Nope 
Digital items are only purchasable with a US billing address unfortunately. 
Negke 
never had that requirement when I bought from Australia, I've always just put in a US shipping address. 
Teleglitch 
Thanks to whoever mentioned it first. I'm enjoying this game a lot. 
Nitin 
Shipping != billing. Those digital items are not available for people outside the US. It even says so on the page. I tried to buy the code myself, but to no avail. Physical items are another thing, they typically work fine.

Or do you mean you registered a credit card with a fake US address? 
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