...through the start map OK, chose skill 0 tower as is my want, into first level and find shoot button under bridge which opens grate in water, swim into newly opened area, instakill. Start again, don't open grate, find quake symbol button that opens small sluice gate bars, go into newly opened section, swim down, instakill. ? No other form of progression seems to be available to me. 

instakill? not monsters shoot you and kill you quickly, but instakill?
that HAS to be a bug. what engine are you running? 

the version that was current for SPdemo3 (winter11). I'll re-download and install/setup the engine and see if it makes a difference. 

though nothing as bad as this

through the grate bars there's only a bit of swimming before arriving at some docks and dry advancement; worst case you could noclip over the water - do all the instakill deaths occur underwater? 

that was fucking amazing.
No problems, very smooth.

Skill 1 was about right for me as a skill 2 player. The end was not as impossible as most of yhour other endings, though it did take more than a few tries! I underused some powerful weapons at times - particularly the ice bow. It *is* sometimes a pain when you have like 20 weapons.

Found 1/2 secrets in the end map, found 20/30 in the main one. much more satisfying than arcdemo2 - plus it gives me yet another reason to delve into this epic map some time down the road.

So so fucking good. Thanks Tronyn. 

zomggg another one? still have than, sock and now this pack to play... will have a awesome Quake holidays this year :)

thanks all and demos will come! 

I posted is the most up to date version of the engine that exists - no grenade bug.

Insta-gib in water is a new one on me as well.

There is no mac version of the engine because nobody on the team had a mac... 

Great map. Only problem was confusion getting the correct RMQ engine. I got the full 2011 demo for the engine. Might as well include the needed engine in the distro, only a few more megs of files. Now if the coders could come up with an engine with smooth level transition. 

on already using the apparently really obscure RMQ engine as my main engine 

Error given:

"Mod_LoadBrushModel: maps/wickedstart.bsp has wrong version number (1112756274 should be 29)"

Looks very interesting. I want to play this map. Can anyone please tell me what I'm missinh? 

I don't think Quakespasm supports the format this map is compiled in, BSP2. You need to use the RMQ Engine or FTEQW; see earlier posts in this thread or the Quaddicted page.

Sorry, the coders are still figuring out BSP2. 

I should have sent you the most recent version as well... 

played again - now there's a weird error: when I enter the water the water texture itself covers my whole screen, so I can't see anything. It's really strange. Only seems to happen in Wicked, and didn't happen before - not sure what's different now. 

The only BSP2-capable engine that has a Mac version, to my knowledge, is Darkplaces, but afaik it doesn't accept 2PSB. The format change was actually LH's request.

The FTE engine Makefile contains the following:

#linux->macosx (FTE_TARGET=macosx) or (FTE_TARGET=macosx_x86) Contact Moodles for crosscompiler, only works with Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger.

Mac people, consider contacting Moodles and pestering him for a recent Mac binary?

http://www.fteqw.com/contact 

Grenade bugs happens for me with ijed's most recent release. 

Try with a Quake installation without any other third party content. Only id1 with pak0.pak and pak1.pak plus the wicked directory. 

However, the Grenade bug didn't happen with the rmq engine that came with the rmqdemo 3 

I really like the fog. GJ! 

Ignoring the first map (great structures but too big just to wander through), the last map (arenas don't interest me), and the engine issues, let's focus on Wicked.

Pretty damn impressive and pretty damn good fun for a ridiculously big monster-filled map. It never felt boring nor overly hordey. The opening shortcuts were useful but there could have been more of them in places.

I got through in 99 minutes, 667 kills and 21 secrets, first time. Nearly died revisiting the outside area when I got careless, but managed to hold it together.

Some of the architecture was brilliant, as were some of the secrets and some of the scale - I didn;t mind it being overscaled as there is enough action to keep it interesting. I appreciate that it is made of map scraps but I would have liked more harmony between the areas, either in designs or details. Some of the latter were confusing and it was hard to tell what was details, or doors, or potential secrets. It's also a bit unrefined in that aspect, but I guess that is partly a function of the scraps.

Generally the gameplay was good throughout. The Drake monsters and weapons are kinda MEH apart from the imps which are cool, but equally they are functional and innoffensive. The Quoth monsters were used pretty well - challenging but not overused. I liked the utility of both the pent and quad returning to the outside area.

I had fun (more than on many 600+ monster maps!) and it was well worth scrapping together and making :) 

This map looks so damn good.

I think I might just play it :) 

I installed FTEQW for this map. It displayed better graphics, but controls were terrible (I think it has different inner variables, my configuration didn't apply to it). Also it was somehow different. It wasn't even showing blood; you can't make sure if you hit a monster or not.

Will this map be playable in Quakespasm soon? If yes, I will be patiently waiting for it... 

SleeperwalkR made a Mac OS X version of the RMQ engine:

Download: http://rem.fov120.com/stuff/RemakeQuake_OSX_20120115.zip

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60584&start=182 

Big news. 

I played half through Wicked with this build. No grenade bug. But ugly black squares instead of explosions, huge sound stutters and fps slowdowns in wide spaces and, worse of all: quickload once Quake has been quit crashes to desktop. I assume my MacPro 2x3.2 Quad Core is ok but this build is far from optimized, the least I can say.

I was lured enough to play further, so I simply installed the last RMQ engine (grenade bugged) on XP Bootcamp, same machine. All I did was to load a copy of the Mac quicksave and play more until I finally switched to the RMQ engine of rmqdemo 3 to avoid the grenade bug. From there, everything ran smooth til the end.

Probably a fresh Mac build with recent resources might work... 

heh, sorry to put everyone through this, but I guess it had to happen sooner or later.