oh, yes you do. I didn't realize you were pointing them all to the same spot. 

Yeah, well that wasn't the real problem but the fact that the destination entity wasn't enough off the floor. Of course, I have been making sure when placing items and other entities that they're not inside walls but I didn't know that's not enough.

Anyways, if I want killing one monster to cause another one to spawn, is it done the same way as other monsterspawns, just with the exception that I replace the trigger_once brush with a monster? What if I want it so that a total of three etc. monsters need to be killed before another wave steps in? 

Anyways, if I want killing one monster to cause another one to spawn, is it done the same way as other monsterspawns, just with the exception that I replace the trigger_once brush with a monster?

Correct.

What if I want it so that a total of three etc. monsters need to be killed before another wave steps in?

Have all three monsters point to a "trigger_counter" with a count of 3, and that trigger_counter points to the teleporter. 

Hi all, I'm currently working on a Q1 base level using JPL's converted d3 texz and would like to add to the d3 effect by including some subtle coloured lighting. JPL has attempted to get me going in this area but I think I'm missing something. I use WC1.6 and compile using aguirRe's tools except for lighting, for which I've substituted the latest tyrlite build.

Can anyone:
- point me to a tute
- carefully explain their method
- point to common mistakes made by coloured light noobs :) 

Please send me an email explaining which method you are using, plus a map example with something you tried to do (e.g, a square room with 4 ligths of different colors would be enough I guess), but for which you were unable to obtain the wanted effect (explained what you wanted as well BTW)...
I'd be happy to help you on that point. 

Tyrlight is the enlightened one who has shapened Quake with coloured light.
I think you can find all tutorials there.

http://tyrann.planetquake.gamespy.com/ 

Not really about mapping but how to enter spectator mode so that you can take all these nice screenshots with enemies and no weapons attached on the screen? 

alias screenshot_on "r_drawviewmodel 0;crosshair 0;viewsize 120;fov 120;bind q screenshot_off"
alias screenshot_off "r_drawviewmodel 1;crosshair 1;viewsize 100;fov 120;bind q screenshot_on"
bind q screenshot_on 

 

 

 

I still play in fov 120 in any game that lets me, feels so weird when it's less. =\ 

Why do some monsterspawns refuse to work? The target and name tags are correct - I have checked this a zillion times. The teleports are teleports and they're of the same size as all the other teleports around the map so it's not that the monsters are too big. Also, believe me I've checked they're not too close to any walls.

I have around 30 spawns around the map so having four malfunctioning teleports is not such a big issue but it's actually becoming an obsession. And it's three specific areas. 

the teleports are teleports? huh?

You stick the monster you want to spawn halfway into a trigger_teleport. The monster and the trigger_teleport get the same "targetname" field. The trigger_teleport targets an info_teleport_destination. Make sure the info_teleport_destination doesn't have the same "targetname" field as the other two!

You have all the monster/trigger_teleport setups in a separate dedicated spawner room.

Right?

Did you get skills messed up (does Light give you messages like "X has no target in Easy skill" etc)?

The trigger_teleports can be any size, it's enough if the monster touches them. Each monster must have its own trigger_teleport! Make sure they don't touch (leave some room between them.)

The info_teleport_destination, as you noted, should not be inside walls etc.

Do you get any error messages? Tried setting "developer 1" in the console, or starting the game with -developer command line flag? Those give you more messages.

And I hope this doesn't upset you, but can you see now why I suggested Quoth? :-) 

"The monster and the trigger_teleport get the same "targetname" field."

I haven't named the monsters but I don't think it matters since 90% of these spawns work fine without targetnames.

"Did you get skills messed up"

No. The monsters are there - they just don't spawn.

All the spawns are in a separate room, each monster having his own telebox and so on.

Developer 1 doesn't show anything relevant.

Anywayz, this had me wonder:
"The trigger_teleports can be any size, it's enough if the monster touches them."

"You stick the monster you want to spawn halfway into a trigger_teleport."

What do you mean by "halfway" in this context? 

The monster and the trigger_teleport get the same "targetname" field.

This isn't required, but does have the benefit of making sure the monster wakes up as soon as he spawns in (instead of waiting until he sees the player) 

Halfway means, the monster and the trigger overlap. You shove the monster 16 or 32 units into the trigger.

Perhaps you should mail the map to somebody else, perhaps AguirRe, and ask if he can take a look at it? 

What are the maximum and minimum X, Y, Z coordinates for a standard Quake compatible map?

If I recall, I think maps have dimension limits of 4096 x 4096 x 4096 but this might be wrong.

Is the answer -2048, -2048, -2048 to 2048, 2048, 2048?

Part B:

What are max/mins in aguirRe's engine and DarkPlaces?

I have an idea for maze generator or possibly a dungeon maker for Quake that writes the .map randomly (for all practical purposes) and then compiles it and it should be rather easy to make [because I have the source for such a program and just need to make it output the brush coordinates]... I just need to know the limits.

Thanks to whoever knows the answer. 

One third of Darkplaces' maximum: http://urre.quakedev.com/stuff/spcscr_test1.pk3 

is +/-4096 in all directions, i.e. a box with 8192 unit sides. Most engines (including mine) are using those limits, while I think DP has (+/-)64k.

I'd rather not think about a maze that challenges any of those limits ... 

I'm laughing, like for real. ;)

That would be the most frustrating map ever. Even with 8192 it still may be the case. 

I already made three of those (8192) :P 

I'm debating making a 8192^3 level... using special tools of course. 

By special tools I mean writing some evolutionary search method to design levels. I really doubt it'd actually be 8192^3, but that could potentially happen if the algorithm is designed in the right way. I don't have the time to work on this any time soon, but the idea seems like it could have merit for game designers, in order to generate... well, whatever is desired. Practically speaking it would be incredibly difficult to "get right," but whatever.

I can think of some func'ers who would be interested in implementing this...