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JPL
#6318 posted by Spirit on 2007/08/31 08:45:28
Spirirt
#6319 posted by JPL on 2007/08/31 13:39:02
Thanks, I already know that one...
Nevertheless I'm really interested about a map example... It will be more helpfull I think.. ;)
Rotating Sandwich
#6320 posted by Preach on 2007/08/31 19:57:35
The two posts at the start and end of this link give a method to make a func_rotate in a way I reckon is easier.
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=4&start=6148&end=6153
No example map, but I think it's easy enough to experiment with.
JPL:
#6321 posted by metlslime on 2007/08/31 20:43:47
look in the "GPL map sources" thread, maybe one of the GPL'd maps has rotating stuff in it.
Preach / Metlslime
#6322 posted by JPL on 2007/08/31 22:16:45
Thanks for the infos ;)
Hipnotic Progs Doc And Example Maps
#6323 posted by negke on 2007/08/31 22:56:14
Light, Jr.
Anyone know anything about lightJuniors? I've got them in a RTCW map to keep the baddies from being blacked out, but they don't seem to be working? Anything I have to do other than simply have them in there?
Oh, Nevermind.
After scouring related forums and sites (and not finding a damned thing), and even hitting up the folks at #splashdamage, it took me a good soak in the tub to come up with the idea that my single-room map (and lightgrid) was too small to make the lightJuniors effective.
And I was right.
More Mapping Fun!
Now that I've gotten the lightJunior stuff figured, my walls seem to be lit oddly:
http://biff.leveldesign.org/pics/map_shots/rtcw/light_test1.jpg
Yes, those are patch curves on either end, and yes, everything is caulked -- both behind the curves and on the unexposed faces of the wall brushes.
But wait, there's more! Soon after that cropped up, I ended up getting leaks through solid brushes:
http://biff.leveldesign.org/pics/map_shots/rtcw/solid_brush_leak.jpg
Have no idea, what's going on -- mebbe my comp will be a pool of goo before morning...
Neg|ke
#6327 posted by JPL on 2007/09/03 08:31:04
I was exactely looking for this ! Thanks a lot: you rock ! ;)
I Know It Isn't Much Help, Biff
#6328 posted by than on 2007/09/04 02:03:21
but I never had any such problems when making my wolfenstein map. What compiler are you using? I was using the one that shipped with gtkradiant 1.1 or so, and then switched to q3map2 for the final compile. The compile tool versions are listed in the text file for the map.
The source is included with the map if you are interested in having a look anyway http://than.leveldesign.org/files/mp_checkpoint.zip
Not really any similar instances though, as I'm pretty sure I only used curves for pipes.
Too Dark
#6329 posted by Mikko on 2007/09/04 22:35:22
Another n00b problem. I made a bridge that's supposed to come out of its "locker" once you push a button. However, the bridge is all dark once it gets out. The same with door frames (the inner parts).
Before:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/msandt/dark.jpg
After:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/msandt/dark2.jpg
#6330 posted by czg on 2007/09/04 22:44:51
Move the bridge into its open position, reverse the move angle, and check the "Start Open" spawnflag.
Dark insides on doors can't be fixed in the same way because then the door fronts get dark, and that's even worse. Can't think of a way to fix that unless you've got a compiler that has entity minlight. (I don't know of any compiler that has that.)
#6331 posted by inertia on 2007/09/04 22:57:49
Dark insides on doors can't be fixed in the same way because then the door fronts get dark, and that's even worse.
They CAN be, if you're willing to fully light the recess in which the doors reside when they are open.
Button
#6332 posted by MSD on 2007/09/05 00:49:50
I'm using Worldcraft 3.33 for Quake 1. I want to make a button trigger multiple doors which open at different heights. How do I do this?
#6333 posted by MSD on 2007/09/05 01:37:47
Hmm, I have fixed it by making two buttons that overlap
MSD:
#6334 posted by metlslime on 2007/09/05 01:50:00
two buttons is not necessary.
You can give the button a "target" and both doors the same "targetname" and it will work.
#6335 posted by anonymous user on 2007/09/05 02:10:19
OH I see, that's obvious. Thanks
Can I put a button on a door? I wanted to have a block rise out of the ground after pressing a button and there be another button on the block.
MSD:
#6336 posted by metlslime on 2007/09/05 03:16:40
I wanted to have a block rise out of the ground after pressing a button and there be another button on the block.
Unfortunately this is not possible (at least with standard quake entities.) You can probably fake it, though, as follows: (Note that this entire thing will only work once; once you push the button and it dissapears, it can't come back for another push.)
First, make a func_door that looks like a block and also includes a "pushed-in-button" as part of the block geometry. Second, make another func_door that looks like an unpushed button. These two doors will rises up exactly at the same time and travel the same distance (this requires careful use of the "lip" field on both doors.) Third, create a trigger_multiple which covers the space where the button will be after it rises. This trigger will point to a "logic gate" which will then trigger two things -- 1. it will target whatever you want, and 2. it will "killtarget" the func_door that looks like a button, making it disappear. When it disappears, it will reveal the "pushed-in-button" that is actually part of the block, making it appear that the button actually moved.
Finally, becuase you want to killtarget the fake button but not the block, they need seperate targetnames. Becuase of this, you will also need a trigger_relay so that one event can make both func_doors rise at the same time.
The logic gate will ensure that when the block hasn't risen, the trigger_multiple does nothing and players won't realise it's there. (A logic gate, in case you didn't know, is a spike shooter pointed at a shootable button, with a door in between. It will only pass on the signal if the door is open.)
So here's a list of entities you need:
1. Input: this is whatever makes the block rise.
"target" "block"
2. Block: this is the func_door block with the pressed-in-button added.
"targetname" "block"
3. Relay: this is the trigger_relay.
"targetname" "block"
"target" "fakebutton"
4. Fake button: this is the func_door which looks like a button.
"targetname" "fakebutton"
5. Trigger: this is the trigger_multiple that users will touch when they are attempting to push the fake button.
"target" "logic"
6. Logic gate shooter: this is a spike shooter that attempts to shoot the logic gate button.
"targetname" "logic"
7. Logic gate door: This is a func_door that is closed whenever the block hasn't risen, and open whenever the block HAS risen.
"targetname" "block"
8. Logic gate button: This is the func_button that the shooter is aiming at. (Hmm, does anyone know if the same entity can both target one thing and kill another? If not, we need another relay to kill the fakebutton.)
"health" "1"
"killtarget" "fakebutton"
"target" "whatever"
9. Output: This is whatever the risen button is intended to trigger.
"targetname" "whatever"
Re: 8...
#6337 posted by distrans on 2007/09/05 03:47:12
... AFAIK target OR kill, not target AND kill. So, the extra relay is required.
Thanks Than
But I ended up rebuilding the test map, and all seems fine now. Have no idea what was causing that sort of thing -- but if I have any more probs, I'll look into that link.
Re: Button
#6339 posted by MSD on 2007/09/05 17:25:44
Thanks for the help. I wish I understood.
MSD:
#6340 posted by metlslime on 2007/09/05 20:32:24
if it seems too complicated, you should probably go with something simpler for now. For example, have some bars block the button or something.
What Is That Blocks The Player On Corners Sometimes?
#6341 posted by Spirit on 2007/09/07 17:23:38
like here:
http://shub-hub.com/files/images/Screenshot-2.png
It might be QuArK floating point gayness but I know I found such edges on many maps.
Nevermind
#6342 posted by Spirit on 2007/09/07 17:25:34
neg!ke just answered me:
qbsp bug, move the vertices or clip.
:)
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