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Seriously, why so few people post screenshots of what they are mapping? :(
i have gotten into the mindset lately of not wanted to 'spoil' any of my maps by posting screenshots. i don't know if that's dumb or not though. :P Going back to the mapping process post, personally I work in an iterative way, so if something is close enough to detailed that I could post a shot then it's probably pretty near finished...
(Not that I ever finish a map) Producing screenshots is easy...
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3084/wunzee.jpg but what is difficult... http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2346/toozeep.jpg is producing the map... http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8004/fweezee.jpg afterwards! http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5016/forzee.jpg holy wowasaurus! Mike I did not think Q1 could look that good! Awesome cave stuff and the fog in some of those screenshots is gorgeous. Please post more! :D
ijed, very cool :) I WANT MORE SCREENSHOTS Top right in your first shot is beautiful Mike. Love the bridge/underground cavern.
And good, novel theme in the 3rd shot ijed, that hole in the ground is very nice... mike:
as i said earlier, all those shots are great looking. i'd suggest reworking that brick texture. it's 128x128 atm, consider modifying it to be 256x256 or even 512x512. just tile it at the larger size and play with the colour shading to add more variety so that it doesn't appear to obviously tiling on wide, open swathes of brushwork (ex: shot2, bottom-right quadrant) also, epic bridges over lava with detailed terrain around the base = win. ijed: shot 1: ok, but really cramped. obviously, that's the point since it's a remake of dm4. i never liked that map in it's original form either. (e3m7 is also cramped like that) so can't really fault anything with the remake version. good on your texture alignment, btw. maybe work some vertical aligned brushwork into the uppermost areas? the horizontal striping is fine at the bottom where it's broken up with hallway openings and such, but it's undisturbed at the top which makes it look repetitive. shot 2: plain, except for that undergrowth of leaves, which is nice. it's a dm map though, so i guess the lack of detail is sort of par for the course. it'd be great if you could work some trim into the edges of those bridges and some supports and stuff. shot 3: easily the best of the three, very cool with the sweeping curved staircases and the details up at the top area. too often (in other's maps as well as my own) the top area at the sky is ignored in favour of plain walls or whatever. it's a tad monolithic with those mini-domes in the far side of the room in that shot. braziers are nice, are those brush or mesh models? either way, very cool. both the cracked hole and the wheel-type grate next to the gun are nice too. Maybe add a slight bit of red to the fog so it suggests the lava pools in areas where they're not. Not too realistic, but like there's brimstone in the air. Red brimstone.
Thanks for the comments :) DM4: Like some supporting structures for the vertical elements? Will give it a try. The level I used to like alot playing on the N64, but it seems like a hated map for most. It's a bit bigger horizontally and a fair bit vertically. DM7: Is very basic yeah. I was thinking to close off the ceiling and have lots of moss / vegetation hanging down. But I'll try adding some wooden beam supports as well as trim for the walkways. Had beams before in place of whats there now (used to be a void map) but having them as detail as opposed to structure sounds good. CTF1: The hole is for a special prop I haven't rebuilt yet (2nd version of map). The level is called 'House of Rhogog'. The uppermost tier is for sniping with the Cauteriser since it doesn't allow the player to cross to the opposing side. The braziers are brush - I was thinking to get rid of them tbh - but yeah, theres other stuff to do and they're ok looking. The hole and grate both lead to the underground tier. DM7 is basically a version of the underground ruin from the film The Ruins. Not particularly well realised, so want to bring it more into line - thus closing off the ceiling but leaving a single skylight, also closing up the top floor a little, since our mantle movement allows players to steal the Quad up there too easily.
DM4 is basically as is since inception. Putting in some vertical supports is a decent idea - currently the ceilings are purely decorative whith what's there. And not particularly imaginative. CTF1 is very much in progress. The reason I was saying about removing the braziers is that I was considering having the stairs in the bottom left and their facing set covered by another sticking our veranda from the top tier, with pillars replacing the braziers. Going to do that anyway, but leave the others in. Need more light sources elsewhere as well, so will keep them. I have gotten into the mindset lately of not wanted to 'spoil' any of my maps by posting screenshots. i don't know if that's dumb or not though. :P
I kind of feel this way. I'm trying to avoid releasing screenshots of all the cool areass of my maps, otherwise there may be no new cool areas for people to discover when playing. I didn't notice Mike's shots were 4 joined together, I was just looking at the top left ones thinking "meh, they look OKAY" ;). Very cool stuff indeed, surely that's quite a way along development.
Metl: that's the thing isn't it. When I was posting other people's shots I was very careful to not post the coolest scenes as, well, even in Quake they can be bloody impressive and an important aspect of enjoying the map. I tried to find areas that were typical and looked good, but not the best bits. Also I think people are mapping pretty slow these days ;) That's what I try to do on Quaddicted too and I constantly get bad remarks about screenshots being bad (apart from problems with the brightness/gamma).
I too do not like getting spoiled. Be it a movie trailer where too many later scenes are shown and I am sitting there, thinking "that scene has not happened yet, so X cannot happen to Y" or - well - a Quake map. hmmm steampunk with plain old medieval? not sure how that'll work. the outside brick textures look a little plain to me. using some better textures could spice things up. that's what i'd do anyway - there's way better brick textures than those ones, and the little metal trims aren't very noticeable. like the style and build quality though!
first 2 are the same map, last shot is a different map, it's not all jumbled up together :P
i'm not totally happy with the main brick texture myself, but as that map has a lot of big structures, i needed something that wasn't too varied so it could tile without looking bad. i originally wanted to use the blocks10 texture from q3 (it's the beige blocks set in cyclopean style) but i felt the trim interacted better with distinct bricks better than haphazard blocks. also, the red stripe motif works better with the brighter white of the bricks than the tan colours of block10, although i guess i could have photoshopped block10 to be more white. block10 and the orange floor tiles are still like my absolute favourite textures. :P
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