...sun_mangle, especially if you're using a skybox that shows the sun. 

I tried viewpos facing directly away from the skybox sun but it's wrong - seems I'm missing some simple change between the coordinates of viewpos and sunmangle.

The idea is to have the light look as if its coming from the correct planar angle and altitude. 

before; there are several formats for specifying a vector in Quake. Viewpos only works for intermission format. For spotlight and sun mangles in Light you use the simpler yaw pitch format.

-sunlight2/3 (the latter is recommended) can be considered "outdoor minlight".

See readme for more details on these subjects and more. 

in WC some of the textures seem alligned, once I fire the map up in quake that is no longer the case. I'm pretty sure theres a command that can be entered to remedy this but I can't remember... any help? 

either -oldaxis or -alternateaxis may work depending on your compiler. Check the docs. 

Yet again ;) 

What will we do without that?

(seriously, color+radiosity in light, tightly controlled and used with the right artistic restraint, looks amazing) 

neither seems to work for WC 1.6... 

i was never a fan of the q1rad compilers. maybe i was just using it wrong, but i found that, while it would get rid of ugly harsh shadows, it tended to wash stuff out too much, giving more of a rough ambient occlusion look. getting nice contrasting shadows was usually more work than it was to make fake radiosity with the regular light compilers. also, it took longer, which was another big reason. :P 

when using q1rad which allowed me to control the lighting a bit more.

My recollection is q1rad can't support switchable lights though, which is a big negative for many single player maps. 

My recollection is q1rad can't support switchable lights though, which is a big negative for many single player maps.

That is correct... it also crashes out on large maps before it finishes. 

Yeah, I remember back in the quake2 days thinking that -bounce was another one of those command line switches where a bigger number meant your map would be better. All of my quake2 maps were very bright and yellow. 

I'd be interested by the use of rotating stuff in Quake: So, is there any tutorial, or any map example that explains the use of <*>_rotate stuff (Quoth)?

Thanks in advance 

Yes, CZG's tutorial is in the Quoth manual:
http://kell.leveldesign.org/quoth/quoth_tutorial.html#rotatings
http://czg.leveldesign.org/q/czg_rotate.txt 

Thanks, I already know that one...

Nevertheless I'm really interested about a map example... It will be more helpfull I think.. ;) 

The two posts at the start and end of this link give a method to make a func_rotate in a way I reckon is easier.

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=4&start=6148&end=6153

No example map, but I think it's easy enough to experiment with. 

look in the "GPL map sources" thread, maybe one of the GPL'd maps has rotating stuff in it. 

Thanks for the infos ;) 

http://shub-hub.com/files/tools/hipprogs_doc.zip 

Anyone know anything about lightJuniors? I've got them in a RTCW map to keep the baddies from being blacked out, but they don't seem to be working? Anything I have to do other than simply have them in there? 

After scouring related forums and sites (and not finding a damned thing), and even hitting up the folks at #splashdamage, it took me a good soak in the tub to come up with the idea that my single-room map (and lightgrid) was too small to make the lightJuniors effective.

And I was right. 

Now that I've gotten the lightJunior stuff figured, my walls seem to be lit oddly:

http://biff.leveldesign.org/pics/map_shots/rtcw/light_test1.jpg

Yes, those are patch curves on either end, and yes, everything is caulked -- both behind the curves and on the unexposed faces of the wall brushes.

But wait, there's more! Soon after that cropped up, I ended up getting leaks through solid brushes:

http://biff.leveldesign.org/pics/map_shots/rtcw/solid_brush_leak.jpg

Have no idea, what's going on -- mebbe my comp will be a pool of goo before morning... 

I was exactely looking for this ! Thanks a lot: you rock ! ;) 

but I never had any such problems when making my wolfenstein map. What compiler are you using? I was using the one that shipped with gtkradiant 1.1 or so, and then switched to q3map2 for the final compile. The compile tool versions are listed in the text file for the map.

The source is included with the map if you are interested in having a look anyway http://than.leveldesign.org/files/mp_checkpoint.zip

Not really any similar instances though, as I'm pretty sure I only used curves for pipes.