 Logic Can Shape Law
#587 posted by Icaro on 2016/02/22 16:04:29
 True
#588 posted by ijed on 2016/02/22 16:07:33
But money makes the world go round :)
If the return on prosecuting / ordering a cease and disist on a modder isn't going to cover the lawyer's salary then they don't bother.
My point was more about internet denizens trying to spoil things for everyone else.
 Hmmm
#589 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/22 16:08:15
If the various sounds, models and textures from other games were slowly replaced with community made versions, would that make everyone shut the fuck up about this?
That alone sounds like a good motivation for a community project.
Sounds, textures - that would be pretty easy. Models not so easy, but I'm sure there's room to use re-skins of existing monsters in place of new ones to cut down on some of the work?
 I Had The Same Thought
#590 posted by ijed on 2016/02/22 16:13:21
But not the energy to go through with it.
#591 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/22 16:20:59
Just for the record I don't believe any lawyer will ever give even a single solitary fuck about what we are doing here...
but if it means we don't have to endure pages and pages of this tedious shite everytime someone releases a map with a hexen 2 model in it, then I think it's worth doing for the long-term good of the quakery.
I think we'd need a solid modeller/animator for that kind of work. Those guys tend not to stick around for too long, no idea why but it's probably because they're usually replacing assets and not creating new stuff (which is the best thing about modding). Plus you usually have to couple them with a good programmer to enjoy the fruits of the labour.
 Exactly.
#593 posted by mankrip on 2016/02/22 16:42:25
 Http://i.imgur.com/lxQ9O.jpg
#594 posted by Spirit on 2016/02/22 17:01:50
for kinn
 Spirit
#595 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/22 17:11:55
fuck you that's worse that goatse, tubgirl and motorcycle.jpg all combined
trigger warning that shit, maybe?
 Are Those Wookies?
#596 posted by czg on 2016/02/22 17:37:08
Maybe shaved wookies?
"Looks good to me" -half of the regulars of func in 2016
 Swan Song
#598 posted by sock on 2016/02/22 18:36:20
As long as there will be new projects
Not from me, AD was my swan song, it has all the textures, models and code I have created over 3 years rolled into one big package!
because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and those old assets are honoured by their inclusion
My thoughts exactly, I spend ages trying to glue it all together into one package. Its certainly not perfect but modding never is!
If the various sounds, models and textures from other games were slowly replaced with community made versions, would that make everyone shut the fuck up about this?
That is a lot of extra work, there is the Minotaur, Golem, Skull Wizard, Spiders, Scorpions and Wraith that would need to be replaced and there is also textures and misc (skull, tree and statue) models!
if it means we don't have to endure pages and pages of this tedious shite everytime someone releases a map with a hexen 2 model in it
People are people and people love to complain! :D
The AD project was always about sharing and re-use of assets as long as it did not involve any money. Anybody here in the community can re-use these assets however they want in their Quake projects!
Just remember the Quake community is a bubble and beyond the walls is a crusading copyright army waiting to wag the finger! Just don't make the mistake I did and try to market your work to the Internet! :)
 Sock, Goddammit !
#599 posted by Barnak on 2016/02/22 22:19:05
Please, don't stop making stuff for that awesome great game Quake1 is !
Even by today's graphics standards and ultra-realistic games, I think Q1 (and also Q3) is still a better game to play.
I've tried many other recent games during the last years, and none has the nice set of features that Q1 has.
You are a quake God, and I'll praise that you still do more maps for it !
P.l.e.a.s.e !?
Or I'll create a new Sock Gayatri Mantra to be played in Quake Temples for Eternity !
#600 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/22 22:42:04
Should ... should we be watching this? I mean ...
 Everyone Evolves Barnak
#601 posted by mfx on 2016/02/22 23:13:30
How would you feel with doing the same over and over again? Just because you can do it, does not mean you have to..
Does your admiring involve a step back from the achieved maps/mod/code/level of professionality in general from where it is now?
I'm sure it does not, you expect all maps from now on to be at least as good as the AD ones.
That's quite a burden, don't you think? (tho it can also be a good motivation)
Been there, done that. This has to be enough sometimes.
IMO. For now..
 I'm A Little Worried
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 Mfx
#603 posted by Barnak on 2016/02/22 23:20:49
I agree 100% with you. I feel just sad that sock would stop his awesome production for one of the greatest game EVER !
I know myself, since I also produced lost of great stuff for another kind of software, and stopped after 8 years of creations.
But again, it is always a sad time when you see someone as talented as Sock leaving.
Sorrow, pain and suffering, is such this world !
Time to build a HUGE Sock temple in the Quake universe ! That would be a great idea for other mappers, isn't ?
 Talent Is Never Lost
#604 posted by mfx on 2016/02/22 23:28:54
only if one chooses himself to.
Artistic expression goes a long way, it must not involve Ogres, brushes, maybe not even a computer.
What you loose maybe somebody elses gain(joy) in the end.
 Edit
#605 posted by anonymous user on 2016/02/22 23:31:02
What you loose, may be somebody elses gain(joy) in the end.
#606 posted by mankrip on 2016/02/22 23:41:57
Fun little ideas always comes up. If Sock eventually gets some little ideas that would work best in a small Quake map, why not do it?
Sometimes the fun is in the ambition, sometimes it's in the experimentation. AD has both, but not all releases must be like it.
 No Edit Feature, ARGHH !
#607 posted by Barnak on 2016/02/22 23:43:59
Shit, I made several writing mistakes in my previous post, and can't edit them ! WTF !?
"I know myself, since..." ---> "I know IT myself, since..."
"lost of great stuff..." ---> "LOTS of great stuff..."
Almost "funny" mistakes that change the meaning...
Goddamit, this board need an edit button. Geez, we're in 2016 ! Not in 1996 !
 Lack Of Edit
#608 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/22 23:48:09
hopefully makes people think about what they post though....
 I'm Only Speaking For Myself
#609 posted by mfx on 2016/02/22 23:52:05
Cannot speak for anyone else.
Sure, if there is sth. cool coming up, unexpected and long awaited.. Why not just go map?!? It is all about fun, and giving fun to others. Nothing more.
Still i have an aspiration to myself, only to myself in that regard. Never repeat, always push bounds, never rest.
Can you imagine what effort was put into the making of it all? Can you imagine compiling a map 2000 times, fixing bugs 1999 times? Maybe you can, not the point really.
What i am saying doesn't matter really, there is always fresh blood draining down the necrotic realms of id legacy.
I'll be sure watching it. It is so nice.
 The Sock Temple(s)
#610 posted by Barnak on 2016/02/23 00:00:01
May I suggest a new map theme for a new jam ?
As an honnor and celebration of Sock's contribution to the Quake community :
The Sock Temple of Evil ! With Knights and priests chanting Mantras :
"Om S-s-s-s-sock, Ommmm S-s-s-s-s-sock !"
With plenty of zombies sacrifices and crucifixions, Shamblers and Vores bathing in blood (and sacrificed), a large sacrifice altar in the middle of a large central room, etc...
#611 posted by mfx on 2016/02/23 00:00:37
Last sentence is an Eco reference btw, you barbarians.
RIP
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