Dirty Map Title Hack
#6040 posted by negke on 2007/05/14 08:29:14
i don't know how to change the cd track, but you can change the map title by editing the .dem file with a hex editor if the intended title is shorter than the present one (fill the remaining characters with blanks). maybe there's a better way, demo editors for example (e.g. filmat11?).
There Should Be
#6041 posted by aguirRe on 2007/05/14 11:56:18
several ways to do those things, I'd probably hex patch it as the CD track and message are at the beginning of the demo file. You can probably also use lmpc, demtool or other similar utility (see SDA downloads).
If the demo isn't so big (dzipped), send it to me and I'll try to patch it.
Cool...
#6042 posted by distrans on 2007/05/16 06:59:51
...you guys are champions, as always.
Ingame Proposal
#6043 posted by madfox on 2007/05/17 00:16:37
I wondered if it would be possible to add a short ingame show-demo like in hexen2 to a map to give the player information about some act-in-game after pushing a button.
Maybe it has something to do with changing the progs.dat, I don't mind, just wanted to know if it's possible.
Cutscenes
#6044 posted by Preach on 2007/05/17 00:38:57
It's possible in some sense, but it's not all that easy, and you need some custom code to do it. You might want to check out zerstorer for an example of what can be done, pushing a button in the second level(among the dead) gives you an in-game cutscene of what the button did(in a different part of the map to the player). The main restriction is that you can't actually play demo files as such, without disconnecting the player. So instead you need to recreate whatever you want to demo "live", which might require a lot of custom qc code.
You might also want to look at the "custents" mod, which has some cutscene code supplied already.
http://wartrench.telefragged.com/custents.html
This will allow you to change the player's view to a camera when they press a button, and do some scripted sequences. You might need extra code depending on what you want to happen in the cutscene.
Nehahra
#6045 posted by ijed on 2007/05/17 00:40:26
Does it fairly neatly - but its a big download for your end users.
Custents
#6046 posted by Preach on 2007/05/17 00:41:40
Would help if I linked to a download site you could actually download it from, try:
http://hosted.planetquake.gamespy.com/fatty/default.asp?file=custents
Custents
#6047 posted by HeadThump on 2007/05/17 00:49:13
supports an in game camera mode that can be used for scene like actions, (close up of Chthon: "Quakeguy we meet again, but this time I have the
upper hand! See. No lightning rods anywhere!), but as far as demos -- I haven't realy experimented but there is a QuakeC patch somewhere in here:
http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/quakec/
(sorry, having a brain fart over its name)
that lets you trigger cvars so maybe a setup like this would work:
trigger_cvar(entityfield savegame) --> trigger_relay ---> trigger_cvar(entityfield playdemo) ---> trigger_relay ----> trigger_cvar(entityfield loadgame)
Ah, Missed Preach's Post!
#6048 posted by HeadThump on 2007/05/17 00:50:41
Cutscenes Via Cvars
#6049 posted by Preach on 2007/05/17 00:58:56
This method has potential, but there's a problem with the way you describe it. At the moment, once you load that savegame, the first thing the progs will do is load the cutscene again, as you saved just before that command. So you need another cvar like scratch1 as a check to whether the cutscene has run. Something like
cvar_set(scratch1 1)
trigger_cvar(entityfield savegame)
if(scratch1 == 1)
trigger_cvar(entityfield playdemo)
at the end of the demo stuffcmd "scratch1 0;loadgame"
Then when it loads, the cvar has changed so the cutscene isn't run.
Cut-scene/camera
#6050 posted by Mike Woodham on 2007/05/17 09:42:23
In the unreleased portion of FMB-bdg (The Imp's Castle) I had used the cut-scene module from Vision by Darin McNeil.
The scenario is that just as the player picks up one of the keys, the view is switched to a camera showing a reinforcemnt troupe of Ogres rushing across the castle courtyard towards the player. So, the player has been warned but he doesn't know exactly when they will arrive.
I works quite well and was very easy to incorporate into the progs.dat.
Vision Pak
#6051 posted by aguirRe on 2007/05/17 11:36:00
Great!
#6052 posted by madfox on 2007/05/17 23:09:34
Thanks for your answers! I asked it on the Quakeplanetforum to check if the dates were changing (they didn't) and got rather cheered off.
I don't care about some coding, but I remember this question being asked earlier. The main reason was demo's need to be loaded in the quake engine before the game starts.
And working with camera's is already a big count on my knowledge.
As for the hexen2 exampel, I thought it was made with the Quake2 engine(?) which has other capabilities. Although I thought Quake and Hexen could go through one slipgate.
I'll check the custom ent mod, and try the others also. I ain't have a straight idea for it yet, but as I found myself at some strange mapping ends I was intrigued by the way it was done in The Portal Of Praevus.
New Old Q1 DM Map - Golden Apples Of The Sun
#6053 posted by Borsato on 2007/05/19 19:10:34
So errmm.. I have this q1 dm map, a sequal to my old map "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day" (Summer.bsp) which is 99% finished. it seems however that I just can't get the time to finalise it. It is enormous, fits 16 players easily, and I am not sure what to do with it. What do you guys think? Keep at it or dump through lack of dm interest?
B
My Suggestion, Keep At It
#6054 posted by HeadThump on 2007/05/19 20:59:45
and give the map file to Than (if he concurs) so he can build Single Player play into it. Your map would then get the audience it deserves.
Release It!
#6055 posted by Spirit on 2007/05/19 22:21:37
if it is a good ffa map then the qw ffa server(s) will probably install it.
#6056 posted by Borsato on 2007/05/19 23:12:12
Good idea but haven't spoken to than in ages.
Is he on #terrafusion maybe?
Than's Here
#6057 posted by ijed on 2007/05/20 01:04:45
And I'd say if it can fit 16 players then you can get SP working well inside. With or without SP you should release, don't give up.
On Here
#6058 posted by than on 2007/05/20 04:47:25
and TCE as YMLL :) I posted in your level design thread a while ago in fact.
Not sure I really have time to work on an sp conversion of your map, but I wouldn't mind having a look if that's alright with you.
If the map is really big it might be a bit daunting to do a good sp conversion. DM3RMX was a good month or two of work, though a lot of that was spent building stuff, so perhaps adding SP to an existing dm wouldn't be so hard.
Greetings!
#6059 posted by Borsato on 2007/05/20 09:59:26
Long time no speak Than :-)
let's continue this on email?
B
Cck
#6060 posted by madfox on 2007/05/26 01:49:50
h� that vision pak is great!
Must thank that Darin McNeil for his sense of scripting, although it's more then ten years ago. Had to know this earlier, but before it was just spagethi to me.
Quake C Triggers
#6061 posted by than on 2007/05/28 14:50:07
I'm currently having a look at triggers in QC and am wondering how to implement a new touch trigger type that doesn't precache any model. I basically want this so that I can have a lot of touch triggers without wasting precache ents on something that can be represented by two position vectors.
The plan for the triggers is that the mapper places a point entity on the floor and then enters a vector that defines a box from that point as an offset in x,y and z. The main problem is that I don't know how to make Quake understand that the player has entered this area. The other problem is that I barely remember how QC works at all :)
Any tips would be awesome.
More Regurgitation Of Q2 Lazarus
#6062 posted by ijed on 2007/05/28 15:43:04
. . . where they had exactly what you're describing, a bbox min and max the defined the area as a trigger once / mutliple / whatever.
I seem to remember it had the problem of always being solid, though you could tell it to autokill itself afer triggered.
There's plenty of documentation of the planetquake/lazarus page, don't know if it'll be much help for Q1 though.
Point Entity Triggers
#6063 posted by Preach on 2007/05/28 16:06:50
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=47757&start=742&end=742
The first half of the post is how to do it, but it's missing one very vital line...
"Find the line
setmodel (self, self.model);// set size and link into world
and replace it with this chunk of code"
should also mention that you are looking for that line in the function "InitTrigger" found in subs.qc
If you have any questions on why it works then fire away.
Re: Quake C Triggers
#6064 posted by than on 2007/05/28 16:09:53
Seems pretty easy actually. All I need to do is create a new InitTrigger function that uses setsize instead of setmodel and then copy the main trigger functions (e.g. void() trigger_once) and replace the InitTrigger call with a call to my new function. I should have probably waited a little longer before posting a message about this actually :)
If it doesn't work then I'll post again >:)
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