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Can someone unban me from #tf? 
K Thnx 
I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank Prod for bringing up politics. This was an unfortunate corner of the internet where the election wasn't being discussed. I wasn't being subjected to skimming the same comments again and again for a brief period of time. Thank you, thank you for saving me from this nightmare of not having the us election crammed down my throat every damn second. 
So... 
... while the US election "problem" is solved now... let's go mapping !! 
Lol, Pushplay 
I have avoided doom3woeld.org this week for that very reason. There are limits to the ammount of eyeball rolling I'm capable of. 
I Come Here For All 
my current events.

so can anyone fill me in on who won the election? 
Terrorists Win! 
 
FOUR MORE YEARS!!!1seven 
And then you guys get Jeb Bush.
NO RUSH NO AIR GL HF! 
Well... 
US president choice is american people problem... even if this choice have a direct impact of many country relationship... And now it's too late to have "desperate cry" .. (Sepultura reference !!)... Just use mapping as a kind of therapy... 8P 
WelcumK?! 
NP!LOL@Push 
Arnold As President 
I thought I heard something about some proposal with the purpose of changing the rule that says you ahve to be born american to be allowed to become president. 
Hmm 
cybear, yeah, I heard about that too.

However, based on what I know of the American system it'd be nigh on impossible to actually make the change. 
 
I think it would require a constitutional amendment, but john mccain supports the change. 
CyBear 
It takes a 2 thirds majority in the House, Senate and the 50 State legislatures to ammend the US Constitution. So, yes, it is a difficult process, as it was intended/ 
 
Arnold was not born American, so he's not elligible to be President.

Coming in 2008.

From the Academy Award Nominee Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Election

Some laws are made to be broken. 
Arnold Should Run 
I mean he's got the perfect losing speech in case things dont go to plan :

I'll be Back. 
Czg 
When did you redesign the Greyvoid website? Got to say, it's a bit erm... odd, but functional. Of course the content (great maps) are the important bit.

http://www.planetquake.com/greyvoid/ 
Headthump 
Only need 3/4 of the States to ratify an Amendment - but still difficult. 
 
One of the most important features of the Constitution is that it can be amended, or changed. The option of amending the Constitution is what is meant when the Constitution is called a "living document." An amendment must first be proposed, and then ratified. Amendments may be proposed by 2/3 vote of Congress in both the House and Senate. Another method of proposing an amendment is for two-thirds of state legislatures to request Congress to call a Constitutional Convention; the Constitutional Convention proposes an amendment. After an amendment is proposed, 3/4 of the state legislatures must ratify the amendment, or, a majority vote in 3/4 of state conventions called to vote on the amendment. 
The Republicans 
Arnold will run on the Republican ticket if the amendment gets passed.

Currently, the Republicans are in command of damn near everything. If a Schwarzenegger-in-chief proposal actually gained serious steam, that amendment would pass.

Not only would America elect an Austrian as its president, it would be Arnold Goddamn Schwarzenegger. And the world would balk at us all the more. 
Well, That Clarifies That 
good job on the civics quote, Scampie. I may have thrown people off with the addition of '50' previously. Should have browsed my pocket Constitution more carefully before commenting.

Lunaran, I think it is a mistake to view the world in a unitarian fashion. It may seem that way when you speak to a lot of people from dozens of nations on the web, but I have found it to be a truism that most college educated people reflect the opinions of their nations elites until they are neck deep in the realities of the work force for about a decade.

At that juncture the main concern becomes which side of the political spectrum is likely to be least damaging to the bond market, the stock market, and my 401K's.

Bill Clinton was the last Democrat to understand that and he may be the last to get elected in this generation if the Party keeps electing people pining to recreate Camelot. 
Nominating People, I Mean 
 
Ooooh 
What is this board turning into?

We already have film thread, music thread, book thread, even food thread; maybe we should start the political thread? Kill me somebody then 
The Amusing Part Of That 
is this thread has been the most mellow discussion of recent political events I have see on the web lately. The func_board of all places.

It'll blow over, Pulsar once the recriminations are out of every one's system. 
 
Pulsar: Why don't you go start a discussion on mapping rather than whineing when the general abuse thread is generally abused? 
Scampie, 
How does a Patriot's fan survive deep in the heart of Packerland?

hehe he he hehe 
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