what is missing from the demo version?

Vore model, spawn
and Hell Knight, right?

Any differences in the Progs.dat? 

open up pak1.pak -- that's what's missing. 

grabbed the images today. I really appreciate you takin the time do that. 

ok, deleting... 

I meant what is necessary to the extent that it would take to set up a functioning version for a player that doesn't have Quake.

I did discover something alarming though. Over the years I have taken Quake apart and set out the models and maps and everything else into folders to be read from that I no longer even have pak1.pak on my harddrive. No wonder I have to import the music now from engines that read obb vorbis and mp3 files. 

It's the original levels that are copyrighted now. I bought mine directly from id in 1996. Memorial day weekend made me wait till the following tuesday to get it. Man was I itchy to play it too. I still have the original cardboard CD holder and all.

I wonder what it will get on e-bay in 20 years...

good times, good times. 

While I admit to having warezed the vast majority of the games I've played, some games simply MUST be owned legally and Quake is one of them. I had originally purchased a pirate Quake CD in Russia for like 1$, but in 2001 I purchased an official boxed set from Activision containing Quake and both Mission Packs. The artwork on the box is absolutely kickass. 

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041025/lam081_1.html

Important bits:

"including the return of the double-barreled shotgun"

"support for up to eight players in all new maps" 

Important bits:

More D00m3 yay. 

why the hell does my ip change all the time??!
:o

also, doom3 expansion! :D 

Necros, probly cause your isp doesn't own enough ips for all the people on their network, they don't expect everyone to be online at once anyway, so they have it set to reset your ip more often so ppl. who aren't online don't waste an ip.

It's one of those annoying policies/business models that hasn't been changed since 56k was hi-tech.

2c 

is that a good thing then? O_o 

Not really, no. But if you're not running servers it probably won't hurt you too much. 

First post, bitches! 

NAT is. Users of certain ISPs here have severe difficulties connection to (for example) IRC servers, because they all seem to originate from ONE external IP address. Evil. 

If you can find the time to utter the words:

!clvl scampie -1000

and

!kb *!*@ravensoft.com

or similar, that would bring peace and harmony to the world.

P.S. Go map. 

Does anyone have a good link to some 2D art stuff, like all those urber leet photoshop backgrounds that kids have floating around? I need some inspiration for my art class .

I've also been going through the inspiration thread so that's help but I'd like to see some specific 2D art stuff. Thanks guys. 

You mean purty effects for web page interface design? Here is a decent link http://www.eyeball-design.com/fxzone/frames02.htm 

noted. apologies. 

screw the �berfilterbackgrounds and go for artists like http://www.goodbrush.com (craig mullins), http://www.cafesale.net/bengal/index.php3 (bengal) and http://www.sparth.com/ (sparth=nunuk)or some other cool digitalartists. 

Artist brush work is annoying in its mannerism. Too much thick clumping as an 'arty' effect. It could be cleaner. Much cleaner.

Good sense of form, but another common mannerism is to allow light, color and shadow to obscure form in unrealistic ways and that I see it here in spades. 

Now that is pretty decent work. Clean lines. Good lighting and atmosphere. One niggle, but almost all modern artist do it. Some pics (ie. http://www.sparth.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=17&pos=11) have big splatches of shadow in the forground. I would rather see the shadow softened or placed at a more stark angle so the ships form is not obscured.

But I like. 

Yes NAT does appear to be more evil,
as an ex-server admin I hated dhcp as well.

Nat fix:
get tor
http://www.freehaven.net/tor/
point your irc, aim etc. through there using
socks5 (or socks 4 with privoxy) works for me
on my college net.
or find a free proxy server somewhere and use that instead.
www.samair.ru/proxy has a list

:) 

Nunuk blows my mind so hard my skull flies open and sprays party favors. 

So I actually read the Doom3 SDK's EULA, which has certain provisions for mods and stuff (the New Creations). This stood out.

The New Creations shall not be downloaded or otherwise exported or re-exported into (or to a national or resident of) any country to which the United States has embargoed goods or to anyone or into any country who/that are prohibited, by applicable law, from receiving such property.

I'm probably going to have to add a click through in the installer when I'm done with Byz to verify that the player is not Cuban or a towelhead.