Hey necros, I like your mapping, too - if I can play it in any engine, that is... 

OMG talk about breaking compiler/engine limits, but I can understand. I often go days or weeks without compiling and just work endlessly in the editor building stuff. :) 

That map isn't sealed yet, right? 

spent some time sealing the map, and i'm still way over.
*** WARNING 30: Clipnodes 59235 exceed normal engine max 32767
*** WARNING 36: Vertexes 69984 exceed normal engine max 65535
*** WARNING 37: Faces 58181 exceed normal engine max 32767
*** WARNING 31: Marksurfaces 68767 exceed normal engine max 32767

even if it weren't for the over the limit 65k vertices, 59k clipnodes only leaves like 6k left to build and here's the punchline: it's only half done.

i don't think there's any way at all that this can be streamlined to work in a single map. right now i'm looking at using the info_mapgate stuff to try to make some kind of hub map setup as i don't want to just throw entire sections away. :S 

you've already got the player route so locked down that you can't eliminate backtracking to previous maps? 

i think that's a good idea. the big problem with a hub map which contains monsters is that depending on where you are emerging from, a different set of monsters would have to be spawned in.
you would never be able to get 100% kills, which kind of sucks. then there's all the jiggery pokery with having to keep track of all the different states of the many lifts, doors, machines etc which would be, probably, impossible without creating a new mod. 

better just to break it into isolated levels and if you need to add connectors and re-work the player route in each level, do it so they can be self-contained. 

taking your maps to new levels and shit.

anxious as hell to play them. I am jealous of your superior skills/ hopeful they exist because your social life is crappier than mine. 

You could kill the unneeded (remaining) monsters with hurt triggers in the spawn rooms and determine which monsters teleport in by staggering multiple teleporters for each one. It's not the most elegant way, but it should work.
I once had an idea for a hub map that would have three or four interconnected canyon/caverns-like maps center around a central hub with a temple entrance. The player would have to collect runes in each of the canyons and return to the temple to open the gates. Then the actual map would start. There wouldn't have been many monsters in the canyons, just a few fiends and tarbabies and the like scattered about and moving along their paths - the natural fauna so to speak - so it's not a big deal if they were alive again upon returning to the level a second time. Then again, this idea doesn't really require a multiple-map hub structure unless each of the parts is fairly large. 

it would have been ok if i had started making this with a hub in mind. :S

i like that idea though, you should give it a shot ;) 

;) 

"natural fauna" LOL. No wonder your mapping is bonkers, negke! 

If i owned a game company necros and negke were the first people i hired :p

If i win Euromilions i buy ID Software rights of Quake and start a new mission pack. 

I was stupid enough to think my mapping stuff is artwork and I recently posted it to an art portal, it got banned I was told to stop using prefabs and make my own stuff!

So here it is, my crappy artwork made from brushwork prefabs! :)

Inactive Generator - http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/maps_q3/moteof1av1l.jpg
Dormant Power - http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/maps_q3/moteof1av2l.jpg
Crackling coils - http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/maps_q3/moteof1av3l.jpg
Switching current - http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/maps_q3/moteof1av4l.jpg 

Those sure are some excellent prefabs... 

Awesome++, man. Really sweet looking! 

JIZZED IN MY PANTS 

JIZZED IN SOCK'S PANTS. AND SOCK'S SOCKS. 

... are blending from all the CAPS!!! :P

I can assume by the shouting 'you like?' Anyway the images are of a 3 stage generator puzzle which opens up and needs to be switched on via various levers around the room etc. I don't want to tell too much because the few people that will actually download my map are actually reading this forum! 

That looks awesome.

Don't know if it's actually "art" though... ;)

*ducks* 

wowzers. 

[nt] 

phantasm11's really great looking q3 map using sock's textures and some of his own :

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/phantazm11/Level%20Design/temple_10.jpg 

That DOES look nice! Wow.