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Quark 
handles stuff off the grid afaik. For SM32 I had to rebuild Gibbie's bit because it was on a floating point grid >:(

Radiant handles stuff down to 0.25 I think, and last time I used it you could build

I think the plan to make that in Quake is masochism. I built about half of my wolfenstein map at 45 degrees when there wasn't much need for it. It wasn't particularly difficult, just time consuming and annoying to build. Having said that, gibbie's map looks like it is generally at more challenging angles.

Gibbie: How about an editor xz view? I want to see how the ceilings were built. 
 
Shady xz:
http://www.student.vu.nl/h.e.beck/shadyxz.gif
Girl8 xz:
http://www.student.vu.nl/h.e.beck/girl8xz.gif

In gtkradiant 1.5 you have to turn off "Snap planes to grid" or everything goes wrong. The smallest grid for both maps is 0.125. That is also the smallest grid you can set in gtkradiant. However if your brushes are not on the smallest grid (eg because of clipper usage) i think it will still save them properly.

Anyways, most of the time i don't mess on such small grids. I mostly just use prefabs from a curvey thing of concentric brushes i once made, kinda like:
http://www.student.vu.nl/h.e.beck/curve.gif
This also has pre-aligned textures :) 
Whoa 
A map called "girl" filled with phalluses? And people thought I was perverted. 
What's Perverted... 
about filling a girl with phalluses? 
Well, 
about filling a girl with phalluses?

I really hate during a DP when they rub your weiner up against another guy's junk while they are giving oral, but other than that, nothing! 
Well, 
I think that I am glad that I don't understand American too well! 
Metl 
the plural 
Spirit: 
yeah, but generally it only takes one to fill 'er up. 
Silent Push 
is there a way (hack) to have a trigger_push that does not play the wind sound? 
Silent Push 
As far as I can tell, the windfly.wav is only used by the trigger_push. Therefore if you are doing a mod you could get away with supplying ambience/windfly.wav in your mod directory where you have a copy of null.wav (from the sound/misc folder in pak0) and renamed windfly.wav. That's a hack.

If you play with Qc it's straightforward to create a flag for noise or no noise.

But Preach will probably come up with some wizard way of doing it :) 
'Fraid Not 
The function that causes the push of the trigger also specifically plays ambience/windfly.wav - unlike doors which play whatever wav file is in self.noise1 for instance. So there's no possibility that the sound could be changed to null.wav by entity field editing. The only possible line of attack would be to make sure that the player's .fly_sound is set to a time far in the future, but I doubt there is any function in the QC that will perform this. 
Ok 
i already expected it to be impossible. thanks for clarifying. 
AI 
Are there extent AI mods that would give monsters (I'm thinking an enemy human-type thing) the ability and logic to duck-and-cover and work as teams and stuff like that? 
Can I 
make spikeshooters fire diagonally in Q1?

If so, how? 
Diagonally In Which Direction? 
Do you mean 45 degrees down, for example? Then no, AFAIK. Otherwise, yes. 
Damn. 
I want two shooters mounted on the ceiling firing in an "X" pattern. Both downward and 45 degrees inward.

Nothing can be easy :-(

anyway, straight downward will do. I figured out how to do that at least. 
Diagonal Spikeshooters And AI 
Diagonal shooters are easy to do. Info_notnull with these fields

use spikeshooter_use
targetname blah
wait -1
spawnflags as for desired spikeshooter
movedir vec

Where vec is a vector in the direction you want the spikes to fire. The velocity the spikes are fired at is 500*vec, so to match standard quake behaviour this should be a vector of unit length. Of course, the advantage of this method is you can actually control how fast the spike fires by varying vec - I hadn't thought of that before.

This sets up a triggered spikeshooter, if you want a constantly firing one the setup is a little different:

think shooter_think
wait n
nextthink 3
spawnflags as for desired spikeshooter
movedir vec

Be warned you need something else in the level to precache the required entities, like a regular shooter of the required type.

inertia: AI_Cafe is a good place to start looking, there's certainly an example of making enforcers duck there
http://minion.planetquake.gamespy.com/index3.html

Working in teams is a bit more vague though, as the quake AI atttacks are basically relentless and crude. There's only so much teamwork you can put into constantly spamming grenades until you die. If you had something more specific in mind, like say navigating more sensibly in packs rather than the current all rush straight at the player and collide, then maybe... 
Preach 
I want to have really intelligent packs of enemies, so that the whole "assault a base" thing could be done in a more tactical style. 
Gosh 
I hope I understood that. Thank you Preach!

TROUBLE: Building E1M2
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I need help. I am trying to build e1m2.map, straight from Romero's zip file.

QBSP gives me a warning about texture +1SLIPBOT not found. Of course, there is no such texture in wizard.wad! Is the map file faulty? I went the extra mile and downloaded wizard.wad from quaddicted. Problem remains. I changed that face to wiz1_4 or something, warning is gone, but:

QBSP then doesn't write a .prt file for no apparent reason. Sorry, I have no idea of the details involved, just trying to build the map. The wad is in a dir named gfx in the same folder as QBSP, the map wants gfx/wizard.wad. That should be OK.

Following that, vis says "no prt file found" and exits :-(

I have built an original and a modified e1m1.map without problems with the same setup. Got a .prt file without problems.

Qbsp does NOT give any error messages, just no .prt file.

Aguire ? 
Err... 
...I've spike shooters firing at all sorts of angles in qte2m2? I'll check tonight, but I pretty sure all I did was add an "angles" field to the shooters then plug in pitch and yaw. 
Inertia: 
so you're thinking like, sneak into the storage shed, unscrew a light bulb so that someone from across the couryard notices it and comes over to investigate, kill him, but then hide the body so that nobody notices it and sounds the alarm, then throw a pine cone over behind the trucks so that they guards hear it and go investigate, leaving the front gate unguared when approaching from the west, then sneak up and garrote the other guard, then take his keycard and use it to recode the security locks... 
Gosh. 
All is fine. I have a prt file.

I fixed two leaks in e1m2. One was two parts of a slanted roof not lining up, the other involved some seriously twisted brushes (like, really deformed.)

qbsp had silently (grrr) produced point files, which contained leaks that quest didn't see. 
Metlslime 
yeah except the player would have a sneaking suit.


and a box.

or a few boxes. 
Yup... 
...adding the "angles" field with value "pitch, yaw, roll" to the shooter was how I got them to fire at angles. 
Cool 
That sounds way easier. thanks distrans :-) 
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