I played a large chunk of AssCreed 2 on a PS3. It has some of the worse controls I've ever used.
I was quite shocked after the amount of hype that went on and on about it's cool movement system and stuff. I didn't realise it would involve holding three buttons at once and giving up camera control. Yeah, don't let me control the camera right when I need to see where the hell I'm going.
And I so wanted to get into it because the actual atmosphere of wandering around a town is really cool :(
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#5746 posted by Jaromir83 on 2012/03/28 10:22:13
rFactor car sim, real tracks, real cars, formulas, GTs, 100MB basic game engine, 300MB each car, 50MB per circuit, 1MB program to connect. my favourite ATM are F458 Macau street circuit, F1_2006 Jerez/Korea, GP2_2010 Singapore night street circuit. icq/qip contact 259689233
 Controllers
#5747 posted by Kinn on 2012/03/28 14:07:10
I prefer controllers for everything, including FPS's (and I know saying that will make a lot of you back slowly away from me, feeling the walls for an exit whilst making sure not to break eye contact). It's a comfort thing for me.
If FitzQuake had support for the 360 controller, I would be on that shizzle.
#5748 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/28 14:37:13
You're not alone. I love controllers for almost any games on my PC. When games don't support my 360 controller, I sigh in disappointment.
#5749 posted by Zwiffle on 2012/03/28 16:12:32
I wanted my controller to work when I got Super Meat Boy. That's about it. I don't see how people can play on controllers when a good mouse/keyboard setup is available (especially when it comes to shooter), but then I've been largely a PC gamer since I was 4-5 years old so that may have something to do with it.
#5750 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/28 16:14:06
Decades of mouse and keyboard use have ruined my shoulder/wrist so the less I need to use that combo, the better.
 I'll Pwn U All
#5751 posted by RickyT33 on 2012/03/28 16:34:05
with my Rat 7.
#5752 posted by bal on 2012/03/28 17:47:07
Mouse and keyboard are good for FPS with guns, but for anything else it really depends. For most games playing with a controller is nice, for strategy games and such I like playing with my Wacom tablet when that's supported, much easier on the wrist and more natural.
 RSI
#5753 posted by [Kona] on 2012/03/28 22:42:55
Same here Willem, I have to take a good weeks break in between playing games so my mouse wrist can recover again. Keyboard one is fine, it's just the damn mouse that fucks it up.
Do controllers not effect RSI as badly as the mouse?
#5754 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/28 22:58:17
They don't for me. Using a mouse is definitely my trigger action. I can use a controller or an art tablet all day, no worries.
#5755 posted by negke on 2012/03/29 10:28:34
Maybe try one of those mousepads that have buldge on one side where you put your wrist on?
#5756 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/29 11:17:05
Thanks. Yeah, I've purchased several hundred dollars worth of devices, pads and gadgets over the years. I also get a deep tissue massage once a month. It's a lifetime commitment of maintenance at this point...
It's the kind of thing you can't tell other people to prevent it because they won't listen. The whole, "Sit up straights, arms at 90 degrees, shoulders relaxed, etc" advice sounds horrible but it really would help.
But nobody wants to hear that ... until their wrist/shoulder starts hurting, and then it's too late.
 Yeah...
#5757 posted by bal on 2012/03/29 16:17:13
That kind of stuff is horrible, I stopped using a mouse for work a few years back and it's done so much good to my hands, so now I try to be careful with the rest, but it's not easy.
Out of curiosity, are you in your 30s or 40s Willem?
#5758 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/29 16:48:20
Just turned 42 last week. I've had these issues for several years though...
#5759 posted by sock on 2012/03/29 18:07:33
Wow, I thought I was the only old timer around these parts, turned 43 at the beginning of this year. :)
 Nope
#5760 posted by mh on 2012/03/29 18:09:03
A few of us in the 40s
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#5761 posted by Zwiffle on 2012/03/29 18:14:10
wtf I swear I was 16 just last week and now I'm 27!! I too am old as fuck. :(
#5762 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/29 18:36:37
You're 27? Oh, that explains why you still love mouse and keyboard so much. >:)
#5763 posted by Zwiffle on 2012/03/29 18:49:16
A couple of the older designers at work use those vertical mice because of their wrist problems, similar to this:
http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-m2/joystick-mouse-388854.jpg
I hope that never happens to me, but I'm already creaky and falling apart.
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#5764 posted by ijed on 2012/03/29 19:10:57
And haven't noticed any real aches and pains yet, but 5-10 years ago I could go out partying 10 hours, sleep for fifteen minutes and go into work fresh as a daisy.
Nowadays it takes me a week to recover from a handful of hours party. And no chance 2-3-4 days in a row.
#5765 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/29 19:27:37
Mine kicked in around 37 or so. Just FYI. :)
#5766 posted by JneeraZ on 2012/03/29 19:31:23
The unfortunate thing is, it isn't something where you start to feel something and then you correct it. If you feel it, you've got it, and you're into management mode.
I wish you all luck! But don't kid yourself into thinking that you don't feel anything so you must be OK ... if you're slouching in your chair and all of that other stuff, it's likely just a matter of time.
Sorry to be a wet blanket. :P Just trying to help...
It's not a problem until it is.
 Zwiffle, What?
#5767 posted by negke on 2012/03/29 19:45:59
I thought you were STILL 16.... All the soliciting for nothing!
 Fkd Wrist Syndrome
#5768 posted by [Kona] on 2012/03/30 02:13:51
I got RSI quite bad several years ago (i'm 32 now) to the point that I had to use a cold flannel on my wrist, but I started using the mouse in my other hand occasionally and just managed it better and it got better again. Tried one of those big flat mouses where you're hold hand sits on it, but it was annoying and slow to use.
Then a few years ago I went self-employed so I don't have to work so hard on the computer. But about 7-12 mnths ago it started getting worse and hasn't improved since. I haven't got the pins and needles at night so much, so I know it can still get much worse than it is now. And it will... probably have to give up gaming in a year or 2, or at least do maybe 1 game a month rather than a few a month.
Willem what do you find works best for it? What kind of mouse do you use/any wrist pad for it?
#5769 posted by [Kona] on 2012/03/30 02:17:51
Oh by the way I reviewed STALKER Clear Sky. Didn't really enjoy it, it just pissed me off. It seemed to be quite popular on this forum so you guys might not agree. 6/10.
http://www.etherealhell.com/etherealhell/reviews/2012/stalker_clear_sky.php
Also tried Silent Hill Homecoming, but it crashed alot, especially when alt-tabbing, the combat absolutely sucked assholes and it wouldn't accept my key config. Trying to change it in the menu only accepted some of the changes. Fucked up console port that I quit not far in.
Next on my list is either Assassins Creed or Devil May Cry 4 :)
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