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FQ failed to load a map and gave a SZ_GETSPACE: OVERFLOW error but didn't crash.
Does this imply that I'm only just over the limit? I had just added 4 ammo packs and 3 health packs, all of which are transported-in after the map starts (player lands on trigger as the map opens). I don't know about CHAN_AUTO, but the other channels will kill any previous sound playing on the same channel.
This is useful if, for example, the guy is in the middle of talking and you want him to yelp in pain. It makes no sense to hear them both at the same time. Regarding the engine stuff, I have no clue. I forgot what SZ_GETSPACE: OVERFLOW means. I think it has something to do with allocating space for strings, and maybe this includes the entire entities string from the bsp, which might have just gone over the limit by adding the boxes? I'd ask Aguirre for sure. each entity can have up to 8 channels (?) through which sound can play.
if a sound is told to play on a channel where a sound is already being played, it gets overrode with the new sound. CHAN_AUTO (0) picks any free channel automatically. I notice that CHAN_AUTO is not used very often (8 times in ID';s original) but CHAN_VOICE is used by every monster, the player, door, client and ai.
Does that suggest that CHAN_AUTO is less likely to be overridden and is a better option than CHAN_VOICE. But could it also mean that if we have (say) 8 weapon firing monsters coming at the player, who is firing his nail gun constantly whilst standing next to two wall torches, near an ambient wind noise, when he activates a trigger that calls a CHAN_AUTO that that sound won't play because there are no spare channels? I have a global sound that stops mid-stream for no apparent reason other than at the time, there is quite a bit going on. I'm looking for a way to maintain that sound regardless of any other sound that may be called. For example, if I have a base level and the player has activated an alarm that spawns a steady stream of defenders, I want the alarm to continue regardless of everything else, until the player finds the silence button, which then stops the spawning. If I allow the alarm to go silent too early, the player won't understand what is happening - suitable messages will have told the player what the alarm means. (That kind of gives the game away, so this message will self-destruct in 15 seconds) I'm writing a program that will generate a
Thanks, DieparBaby I guess some compilers support func_group, but there's no real way of grouping anything in the
It might be best if you made the siren sound a non looping file, and then made the entity repeatedly play the sound at the same interval as the loop did. That way even if the sound was occasionally overridden by other noises, it should keep returning.
If you only want the Group information in the
Example brush from the { //"0007" "0" ( -128 -512 -48 ) ( -256 -512 -64 ) ( -256 -512 0 ) ROCK18 0 0 90 1.0 1.0 ( -256 -512 0 ) ( -256 -384 -48 ) ( -128 -512 -48 ) ROCK18 0 0 90 1.0 1.0 ( -128 -256 -64 ) ( -256 -384 -64 ) ( -128 -384 -64 ) ROCK18 0 0 90 1.0 1.0 ( -256 -512 0 ) ( -256 -384 -64 ) ( -256 -384 -48 ) ROCK18 0 0 90 1.0 1.0 ( -128 -512 -48 ) ( -256 -384 -48 ) ( -256 -384 -64 ) ROCK18 0 0 90 1.0 1.0 } The "0007" is the Group number and the Group's Index is part of the header information, which gives the Group's name as used in the editor. In this particular example, the Group's number is 7, which I called Island in the editor and coloured it green. I have 25 Groups in this map (not all of which are different coulours) and I switch off any Group that I'm not working on in the display although the editor saves all Groups at every save regardless of the display. If that helps? Hi Mike:
Thanks for your help. Just two questions. So "0007" is the group number. Is "0" the group index? That is, if I have 25 groups, will the group indicies be 0 to 24? Can the group number be any number? Where can I get the BspEditor you use? I don't want to get the wrong one. DieparBaby In my example "0007" is the Group number but I do not know what the "0" is. The index I referred to is a list of the Groups used. Here are the first 9 lines of the file that I used in the example earlier:-
//BSPGROUPS0026 //BSPGROUPINFO"None" "255 255 255" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"monsters_easy_only" "192 192 192" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"monsters_norm_only" "192 192 192" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"monsters_hard_only" "192 192 192" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"first_area" "255 128 128" "1" //BSPGROUPINFO"cave1" "0 255 128" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"clip" "255 0 255" "0" //BSPGROUPINFO"island" "128 255 128" "1" The first line shows that I have 26 Groups. They are numbered 0 to 25. The first Group is by default called "None" although it can be renamed but it will always be numbered as zero. The set of three numbers "255 255 255" refer to the outline colour in the editor, in this case it is the default white. I then created the other Groups that you see. I don't know what the last "0" is. You will find BspEditor here http://www.bspquakeeditor.com/ If you use the contact button there, the guy who has updated the editor will respond and will be able to give you much more technical answers than I can - I am just a user. each entity has it's own sound channels, and the game has a maximum number of channels for sounds.
one entity with a sound playing on channel 1 won't override another entity with a sound playing on channel 1. but having one entity start sounds on the same channel is useful, for example on doors. that's how they stop the looping sound when a door stops moving, by playing the stop sound on the same channel. i don't know how many channels the game itself has, but it's not a lot. there may be priority on channels, but i'm not sure. it could just go by which sound was started first. but yeah, if you have any long sound, make sure it's not looped and manually play it again via qc to make sure it never gets cut off. i believe ambient sounds, started at map load time never cut out, but that's just because i've never noticed that happen. I made a mine lamp and wanted to add it as a b_model. But its a *.mdl file.
Is there a program that can make a bsp of it? http://members.home.nl/gimli/Quake.jpg Make sure to add -condebug +developer 1 to engine cmd line and inspect qconsole.log after you've run the engine. What does it say?
What gfx card and OpenGL version is it? Does WinQuake run on it? Does any other OpenGL app run on it? I have +developer 1 cvar for sure, but I'm not sure about -condebug. I'm not also sure about gfx card, and openGL version, I have to check it.
I also don't know if another OpenGL application is running at the same time... Nevertheless, WinQuake is working fine.. while very slow with my current project... (i.e very choppy) I'll verify all these things by monday, and give you feedback then. I'm just wondering if there is any lightmap editor available for q1 format maps. Is it possible to extract the lightmap to images and reimport them into the bsp at all? All I really need is a tool that can increase the brightness whilst still keeping contrast, so a light scale operation would probably also work, but I don't think there are any utils that will do that for me. Does anyone know of anything that can help me? All my maps are too dark on other people's computers because I have such a bright screen...
I don't see anything strange compared to what happened with my home PC in the console. Maybe the 2nd line message that says wipx_init: unable to open control socket but I'm not sure...
I guess it is a WinXP issue... Nevertheless, what should I focus on that could help me to solve this issue ? Gamma correction was designed to compensate for different monitor brightnesses. Have you tried that?
Since you claim that my engine won't start properly, the log should show where it crashes (if it does crash, that is).
I asked for a couple of things before, where are the answers? I can't say anything without a lot more information. I guess so, but it doesn't work on all glquake engines, and some people bitch a lot if a map is too dark on their screens.
OK, sorry for this, but as I'm at office, it is a little bit tricky for me to "play" cause I'm in an open space.. and everybody could see me... :(
Nevertheless, here are the characteristics of the labtop: CPU: Genuine Intel CPU T2500@2.oGHz RAM: 1Go RAM@1GHz VCard: Intel 945GM Express Chipset Family OpenGL Version: Not known but DirectX8 is installed (BTW our IT engineer seemed surprised I mentioned OpenGL for WinXP... where could I pick this information ?) BTW, I just made a small test with glquake131, and the game get stucked at the beginning (no possibility to move at all...), and I had to reset and restart the computer... Oh and here is the qconsole.log Console initialized. Winsock TCP/IP Initialized WIPX_Init: Unable to open control socket Exe: 00:10:49 May 26 2005 32.0 megabyte heap Video mode 1280x720x16 60Hz initialized FOUND: ARB_multitexture FOUND: ARB_texture_env_combine FOUND: WGL_EXT_swap_control FOUND: EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic Sound Initialization Set primary sound buffer format: yes Using secondary sound buffer 2 channel(s) 16 bits/sample 11025 bytes/sec DirectSound initialized Sound sampling rate: 11025 CDAudio_Init: No CD in player. CD Audio Initialized joystick not found -- no valid joysticks (a5) ========= Quake Initialized ========= execing quake.rc execing default.cfg execing config.cfg execing autoexec.cfg Unknown command "gl_texquality" Unknown command "r_interpolate_model_weapon" SpawnServer: start Clearing memory Programs occupy 405K. meshing progs/player.mdl... 408 tri 628 vert 1367 cmd meshing progs/eyes.mdl... 16 tri 24 vert 53 cmd meshing progs/h_player.mdl... 40 tri 64 vert 141 cmd meshing progs/gib1.mdl... 28 tri 46 vert 102 cmd meshing progs/gib2.mdl... 82 tri 138 vert 305 cmd meshing progs/gib3.mdl... 20 tri 32 vert 71 cmd meshing progs/v_axe.mdl... 184 tri 288 vert 629 cmd meshing progs/v_shot.mdl... 128 tri 190 vert 412 cmd meshing progs/v_nail.mdl... 188 tri 312 vert 687 cmd meshing progs/v_rock.mdl... 54 tri 86 vert 189 cmd meshing progs/v_shot2.mdl... 152 tri 250 vert 550 cmd meshing progs/v_nail2.mdl... 190 tri 302 vert 661 cmd meshing progs/v_rock2.mdl... 124 tri 204 vert 449 cmd meshing progs/bolt.mdl... 26 tri 52 vert 118 cmd meshing progs/bolt2.mdl... 26 tri 40 vert 88 cmd meshing progs/bolt3.mdl... 26 tri 40 vert 88 cmd meshing progs/lavaball.mdl... 20 tri 32 vert 71 cmd meshing progs/missile.mdl... 58 tri 100 vert 222 cmd meshing progs/grenade.mdl... 14 tri 24 vert 54 cmd meshing progs/spike.mdl... 4 tri 8 vert 19 cmd meshing progs/s_spike.mdl... 4 tri 8 vert 19 cmd meshing progs/backpack.mdl... 110 tri 160 vert 346 cmd meshing progs/zom_gib.mdl... 20 tri 32 vert 71 cmd meshing progs/v_light.mdl... 172 tri 282 vert 620 cmd meshing progs/flame2.mdl... 86 tri 140 vert 308 cmd meshing progs/flame.mdl... 122 tri 198 vert 435 cmd meshing progs/zombie.mdl... 347 tri 559 vert 1225 cmd meshing progs/h_zombie.mdl... 49 tri 73 vert 159 cmd 40 entities inhibited trigger_teleport, target 't11' has no target Server spawned. CL_EstablishConnection: connected to local 3 demo(s) in loop Client LOCAL connected VERSION 1.09 SERVER (4223 CRC)Serverinfo packet received. Introduction CDAudio: drive not ready CL_SignonReply: 1 CL_SignonReply: 2 CL_SignonReply: 3 26.3 megabyte data cache CL_SignonReply: 4 Sending clc_disconnect VID_Gamma_Restore: failed on SetDeviceGammaRamp Hope it is enough :) Comments to the info; I've heard Intel onboard chips (and/or drivers) are terrible for gaming, so that might be the reason. OpenGL info should be obtainable from the desktop RMB configuration (advanced). Maybe newer (or older) drivers are available from Intel?
If you had listed the qconsole.log contents from the run of my GLQuake instead of Fitz, you'd also known the GL-version ;) Didn't you get any log from my run? You could try adding option -nomtex to see if that makes any difference. Try also -window to see if window operation is possible and use desktop resolution. Have you tried another OpenGL app (i.e. not Quake) to see if that works? If you don't know any other, there should be screensavers in XP that use OpenGL. You could of course also try other Q1 engines; Joe, DP You could also try asking Baker at QuakeOne forums, he seems to know a lot about Quake startup problems. if they want to use an engine that doesn't support gamma, there is still a way to do it.
In the control panel, the display settings for most cards should provide a way to set hardware gamma. This is exactly the same gamma setting that fitzquake/darkplaces modify when playing, by the way. There is also a program called "setgamma" which you can add to a batch file if you want a one-click shortcut to launch the game with the correct gamma. For example: setgamma 0.6 glquake setgamma 1 You can get setgamma from the fitzquake website here (direct link): http://www.celephais.net/fitzquake/files/setgamma12.zip
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