Zwiffle, it can equally be seen as an advert for the far left & anarchism, in that it is a rejection of capitalist values and a rejection of the society impossed restrictions that plague modern society. Especially if you've read the book (which, as is generally the case, is a lot better).

However, the go far enough to the left or right and the two gradually become indistinguishable.

(go go benign dictatorism) 

go to bed!

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#5556 posted by nonentity [217.41.19.241] on 2004/09/24 00:18:50 

To expand (only slightly) further; without identity or possesions, we all become equal and each individual is equal valued (even if that value is next to nothing).

And atheism was very much part of communism 

I'm waiting for dawn, I haven't seen it in a couple of weeks and it should be quite soon. 

(Also, can't sleep, internal anguish will eat me) 

there are no victors in stupid arguments, that's why I quit caring about 2 posts in explaining my postion and went to play video games. 

What exactly do you mean we become equal without identity or possessions? In what sense, is what I'm getting at. 

Defeat nothing, as I say I gave up nearly 3 hours ago through boredom (that and got distracted by pope in #tf, as you saw :).

The internal anguish is due to some entirely seperate (and fairly nasty) rl shit atm 

Well, the ideal of the far left is that every single person is treated as equal, has equal possessions and plays an equal part in society.

If everyone is worth nothing, has nothing and is merely a 'slave' to the overall goals then they are equal.

No-one said equality meant everyone having lots of things and being highly valued 

You're reading a lot into the movie that is there in some form, but one thing i think you missed is that the movie isn't actually promoting Tyler Durden's pholosophy. It introduces it as seductive and promising, explores the imagined consequences, and ultimately rejects it. 

philosophy 

Just installed this baby along with the "adblock" and "tab extentions" packs, and I must say its great. I was using Opera before but firefox kicks its arse big time. If anyone hasn't tried it yet I strongly recommend it.

No more ads evar! yeay! 

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and also
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http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/40/
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/41/
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Oh, and as for that argument earlier (not the Fight Club one)...
Tell you what, you stupid fucking func_msgboard.shitz . . . I'm feeling a mite TESTY and wish to admonish each and every one of you in the manner to which you shall soon become accustomed . . . that is if you had fucking BRAINS in your cranial cavity rather than the sordid, sticky, solidifying remnants of FIFTY-THOUSAND Juarez donkey shows, you fucking MAJORLY FUCKED wombat dick eaters who TO THIS VERY DAY still stand in front of kindergarten schools with your rancid peckers
in your own NECK STUMPS bemoaning the dearth of DEAD WALRUS RECTUMS with which to sate your psychotically deranged sexual desires. DO YOU HEAR ME???? You fucking DUMBASS func_msgboard.jitbagz are THIS VERY MINUTE jerking off to fucking pictures of piles of STOAT MANURE, the steaming miasma of which brings thoughts of BUTTFUCKING CAMELS to your petty hind-brains you ASSHOLES! I am so sick of
you Bobbie-shit eating BOBBIES that I'd like to rearrange your SHIT'S CUNT'S ASSHOLE'S DICKS into a tortured tableau reminiscent of the WORST NIGHTMARES ever to invade your tiny little cerebrums and then make you BUTTFUCK the farts that result from your EATING the aforementioned stoat manure. I think you all (and that means YOU!) can all suck a mule's ass through morning glory and that's CORRECT you stupid fucking SHIT-LICKING ambassadors of ASSHOLEISM who DAILY relish the thought of finding a couple of dead, rotting FUCK-DEMON carcasses, filling the rectal cavity of said carcasses with a couple of pints of anthrax
culture/sulfuric acid, sticking the stapled stumps of your flaccid members into the by now smoking and quaking cavity, humping like your life depended on it, paying your PASTOR to videotape the whole squalid affair, selling the videotape TO YOUR OWN MOTHER, then fucking JERKING OFF to the thought of your mother
jerking off a DEAD HOG while watching YOU jerk off to the thought of HER jerking off the hog while watching the video. THAT'S PRETTY FUCKING FUCKED UP, if you ask me. But I'm not really surprised at how utterly SHIT-SOAKED and RAT-CUM besmirched you fucking func_msgboard.lamers are. If you all fucking died YESTERDAY it would be TOO SOON. So put THAT SHIT in your goddam corn pipe and smoke it, motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!
Good 'nuff fo' yuh, Headthump? 

 

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=1&start=5333 

somehow 

...now I'm a little scared. 

The other day, I was feeling rather peckish and quite fancied some BEEF. So I went to a good butchers and bought 3/4 a pound of BEEF mince. And then I went home and made that into one large BEEFburger. 6" wide, 1 1/2" deep, served on a huge bap with lots of cheese, mustard, rocket and spinach. Yum. It was huge. That 3/4 pound BEEFburger was big, delicious, and contained a lot of BEEF...



























...but not nearly as much fucking BEEF as this func_discussion. Jeeeeeeezusssss... 

Have you got both CMR2005 demos installed? I have the single player installed, but the MP demo refuses to install, I get one of those Microsoft, bla bla .exe has caused ......................and must close etc, warnings. So I thought you may not be able to have them both installed at the same time?

GTR, can't seem to get rid of the 'pit rev limiter'? and therefore I cannot rev very high, am going to look into it, and install my wheel, hopefully I will get it sorted. 

Got GTR sorted, and it's excellent, if they don't stuff it up, and the AI is good, it will be awesome. However I must disagree with turning on traction control. I think simulation with no aids just rocks. The sound is very good, the feel, physics seem good, it looks great. I love it, thanks for the heads up. 

http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1523

Very handy for making seamless & animated textures, worth a look if your interrested. 

I have Colin 2005 single AND multi demos installed just fine. I would maybe try redownloading it. Yeah, the RPM limiter in GTR is tits when you turn it off! :D

Shambler - you call it beefburger over there? I always thought hamburger was odd when it's not ham... and you call the buns baps? That's funny. Baps. BAPS! B A P S! 

If you take Tyler as a metaphor for Facism, then what Tyler did was help out Narrator. Narrator was having issues he could not resolve by himself, and had to have the assistance of other parties to temporarily fix his problems for him. When that couldn't happen anymore, Tyler showed up.

Throughout the entire movie (yes, this is based solely on the movie, I never read the book) you see Narrator adopt more and more characteristics of Tyler, and ultimately become more self-sufficient and organized, as Tyler himself becomes more and more dominant it seems, taking actions without Narrator's consent and keeping him in the dark about what's going on.

This leads to the "overthrow" of Tyler, as Narrator, by the end of the movie, is sufficient enough to take care of himself without the need of someone telling him what to do.

There are a couple things about this I think promote Facism:

1. Narrator, under Tyler's influence, becomes organized, confident, and adopts many of Tyler's personality traits.

2. Through Narrator, Tyler is able to set up a huge regime that is efficient and disciplined. Claiming they are enlightened, they proceed to systematically eliminate that which they believe would ultimately be the fall of man. They are all equal, yes, but they're really all just slaves to Tyler.

However, the more I think about it, the more it seems to be NOT promoting Facism, but instead just showing the course Facism takes;
Although I can't truly comment on that, because I haven't learned too much about any country that adopted Facism and what happened with the regime in control.

But my point is, Tyler represents Facism and ultra-conservatism and NOT anarchism, because of the fact that Project Mayhem's system was built up on treating people as slaves. They are equal, yes, but they have no opinion or free will it seems. 

I might not see Nyarlathotep giving me a nod.

~_^ 

should have been Started It, not Start It.