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I don't think expectations are all THAT high. 11 years of promises, maybe, but were we really listening? The fact that they've taken this long makes me think they don't really know what they're doing, and if the game isn't a bit of a mess, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
So I think I disagree with theory #1 and agree with proposed alternate theory : the damp squib. It's not going to set the world on fire and do body shots of success off the cleavage of games reviewers worldwide, it's probably going to have to sleep with PC Gamer's ugly sister to break 80%. Hope they prove me wrong though... I think we'll see it released, maybe late 2009 or 2010 I hope, and indeed it won't light the world on fire. What I think is that the original game on Unreal engine, which was probably 95% done, they should have fkn released back 2002 or 2003, and then started a sequel, which is where they would be now anyway. Instead they scrapped basically everything. George Broussard is an idiot who appears to want perfection for the game and won't release otherwise. But he won't get it, he's already using an outdated engine. I would be surprised if they switched to a more modern Unreal engine again.
It's not a good sign when in 2008 they're advertising for mappers and programmers to work on the game. Who knows... maybe the reason for it never being finished is because they have no money. I think the opposite, actually. I think the reason it isn't being released is because they HAVE money. They sold the Max Payne IP and a few other things so they are flush with cash for years to come. Scott and George are already rich from years past so there's no pressure to release the game. This allows them to tinker endlessly, throw stuff away and start over, etc. All of those things are good to a point - but without pressure to ship you can slip into a state where you are perpetually building and never finishing. It's dangerous and I think that's where they are stuck at the moment. Not sure how to knock them out of that groove and get them back on the shipping path though...
...and I found this little gem in the svencoop 4.0 for half-life.
http://www.svencoop.com/screenshot_pics/40/it_has_leaks6.jpg is sven coop still the abomination that took existing levels and made them into stinking piles of shit it was for hl1? Looks like it still is ;)
Good shots.
One thing though, the texture under the curved arch doesn't match up with the bricks surrounding it - a pet peeve. yeah looks nice. maybe a diff texture under those arches or doorways? archway on the right of the second shot is a bit plain... maybe add some decals/lights, or give the step that metal trim. then again, i'm a bit of a detailist.
It's still early stuff, but thanks for the feedback! I was considering doing something custom inside of the arches. Your feedback kinda confirms what I was thinking in the back of my mind
Its coming along slowly but surely, working on 3 maps at once at the moment to keep things fresh! They will eventually all be tied together into a little episode
http://daz.quaddicted.com/images/abandoned10001.jpg http://daz.quaddicted.com/images/thegun_v010007.jpg http://daz.quaddicted.com/images/factory_v040007.jpg http://daz.quaddicted.com/images/factory_v030003.jpg Screenshot : http://www.simonoc.com/images/design/maps_q3/silent_1au800.jpg
The website page has been updated with new screenshots and a list of changes since last alpha. If you have any spare time, please drop by #CPMPICKUP channel and give the map a test drive! All feedback welcome. Top down map layouts, screenshots and download link are available here: http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/maps_q3/silent.htm I look forward to playing this but personally the second shot is the weakest for me. It may be quite pretty in a conventional HL2 sort of way, but it sort of implies that there might be a lot of 'walk round corner and be impressed by sunlit vista' moments that got quite boring in HL2. Personally I love the idea of veteran Q1 mappers applying their legendary instinct for ferocious combat to games that are more commonly known for eyecandy and scripted setpieces.
I love the first shot. I think a map that was based entirely around that "abandoned" theme would be awesome. A primarily exploration based level - combat could be worked into it but if the main basis was great looking areas in an abandoned factory or something it would be memorable.
Its funny you should bring that up fish as I was thinking the same thing about that beach area, originally it was just a nice set piece to start the whole episode off with, the player simply awoke on the beach and had to make his way around some rocks to the houses at the other side.
Eventually I decided that was quite a weak intro so now currently there are pools of water filled with leeches that the player has to avoid by finding ways around them and various little puzzle "alleys" contained in the rocks with sentry guns and mines and all sorts of other defences before you make it to the buildings. I also had to cut down on the amount of water in the scene as it was starting to bring my graphics card to its knees in some areas, eventually I found a nice compromise by using slightly less water and using a slightly less complex water shader for the scene which seems to have done the trick for now. I had no issues with the vistas in HL2 though, and its certainly great fun to create some of my own in a game I enjoy just as much as Quake! "and its certainly great fun to create some of my own in a game I enjoy just as much as Quake!"
Ultimately, that's what's important. If you're having fun, forget the haters. :P
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