but looks like an outstanding place to blow some shit up. 

not enough bloom. 

 

http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/images/DNF_Xmas08_1280x800.jpg

Alternative title: Rejected Gears of War Enemy Designs 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=23795&start=2429 

 

Yeah I haven't been impressed with any/all Duke Forever stuff that's been released 'recently' (ie, in the last 2 years.)

I smell flop. 

...especially the part where because 3DRealms don't allow hotlinking, I had to copy and paste the url :P 

...I guess some of you old-skool quakers are a little bit biast. Which I can kinda understand, after the whole "Quake vs. Duke3D" media circus. Its like Blur v Oasis...

Fashion victims, sheep, trend-followers.....

hah! 

They just never finish anything. 

Back then Quake was the dark brown ugly duckling and Duke the colourful pop chewing gum glee. It's weird to see such a dark and colourless picture. Made me realised how I much rather like comical games instead of that "next-gen realism". 

but we'll find out quite soon I predict.... 

I don't think they're ever going to release it at this point, honestly. They can't. It'll be insta-shredded the second it hits the reviewers hands as people have been waiting for over a decade in a Daikatana-esque fever waiting to tear it a new one.

It would have to be so over the top awesome to overcome all of that negative inertia that I just don't think it's possible. For any company, I mean, not just 3D Realms. You just can't successfully deliver on 11 years of promises.

It's gone from eagerly anticipated to vapor ware jokes to tired joke and soon to move on to obscure fact featured in a future edition of Trivial Pursuit. It's dead, Jim. 

Or an alternate theory I have is that it will come out, people will shrug, and it'll slide into the history books as a foot note.

I really don't see it lighting up the gaming world at this point. 

(the GnR album, not the actual thing, that is) 

Yes, exactly like that, actually. It's here and nobody cares. 

for those who instantly thought Galaxy News Radio.

Incidentally yesterday I found the Wazer Wifle, which I didnt realise was a real gun even though I had read about it on Fo3 forums, I just thought people were being silly....
Bethesda are geniouses IMHO! 

if its as good as prey then I will be very happy :) 

I don't think expectations are all THAT high. 11 years of promises, maybe, but were we really listening? The fact that they've taken this long makes me think they don't really know what they're doing, and if the game isn't a bit of a mess, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

So I think I disagree with theory #1 and agree with proposed alternate theory : the damp squib. It's not going to set the world on fire and do body shots of success off the cleavage of games reviewers worldwide, it's probably going to have to sleep with PC Gamer's ugly sister to break 80%.

Hope they prove me wrong though... 

I think we'll see it released, maybe late 2009 or 2010 I hope, and indeed it won't light the world on fire. What I think is that the original game on Unreal engine, which was probably 95% done, they should have fkn released back 2002 or 2003, and then started a sequel, which is where they would be now anyway. Instead they scrapped basically everything. George Broussard is an idiot who appears to want perfection for the game and won't release otherwise. But he won't get it, he's already using an outdated engine. I would be surprised if they switched to a more modern Unreal engine again.

It's not a good sign when in 2008 they're advertising for mappers and programmers to work on the game. Who knows... maybe the reason for it never being finished is because they have no money. 

I think the opposite, actually. I think the reason it isn't being released is because they HAVE money. They sold the Max Payne IP and a few other things so they are flush with cash for years to come. Scott and George are already rich from years past so there's no pressure to release the game. This allows them to tinker endlessly, throw stuff away and start over, etc. All of those things are good to a point - but without pressure to ship you can slip into a state where you are perpetually building and never finishing. It's dangerous and I think that's where they are stuck at the moment. Not sure how to knock them out of that groove and get them back on the shipping path though... 

back on the shipping path

lane surely? 

...and I found this little gem in the svencoop 4.0 for half-life.

http://www.svencoop.com/screenshot_pics/40/it_has_leaks6.jpg 

the flying HL monster actually doesn't look all that out of place in there. 

is sven coop still the abomination that took existing levels and made them into stinking piles of shit it was for hl1? Looks like it still is ;)