Maybe
#5227 posted by Ankh on 2006/08/10 15:36:31
maybe there is a duplicate brush (with misaligned texture) which isn't clearly visible in the editor but gets visible in the engine?
Texture Misalignment
#5228 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/08/11 12:02:45
generic: I use BspEditor (latest) and the texture is not rotated or off-set in any way. Oh, and commando!
Ankh: when I read your suggestion I thought you had got it as this brush does come from another map and I could have double-pasted. But no, not to be.
It appears to be off-set 13 units. Perhaps I'll just have it unlit and nobody will notice!
Weird...
#5229 posted by generic on 2006/08/11 15:12:41
the whole commando thing ;)
Mike, if you offset it 13-units in the editor, does it fix it in the game?
Have you copied the brush elsewhere in the map to see if it still draws funky?
Does it matter what texture it is?
Well...
Generic
#5230 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/08/11 15:36:57
Yes, I off-set in the editor and it looks OK in-game. The minnor problem is that the entity brush is set amongst ordinary brushes with the same texture so it looks stupid in the editor.
Ho hum, I'll carry on.
(OK, if not commando perhaps directoire?)
I Don't Know About Directoire But...
#5231 posted by generic on 2006/08/11 16:58:56
I can sympathize with your texture trouble. In my yet-to-be-released mini-marcher speedmap, I had some rotated textures looking rather sweet in the editor, but they looked very poop-ish in game. It turns out I was rotating them by fractional degress which Quake, apparently, does not do :|
That Happens
#5232 posted by HeadThump on 2006/08/11 17:44:44
rather sweet in the editor, but they looked very poop-ish in game. often with my set up as well. Easy enough, once you get use to, it to watch for in a full map, but really inconvenient for a speed map.
Uh, boxers -- the boys gotta beathe, but commando causes too much straffing with heavier fabrics.
Strafing?
#5233 posted by BlackDog on 2006/08/12 05:25:14
I'd be worried about more than my underwear fit if my genitals had the ability to bunnyhop. O_o
Hey,
#5234 posted by HeadThump on 2006/08/12 10:53:14
it's a Latin thing, and the Ladies love it!
HeadThump
#5235 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/08/12 11:15:32
I just remebered that in the Bsp.ini file (I use BspEditor) there is a setting to resolve the 45degree problem.
In version .94, I noticed that it is switched off by default: texture_alignment=0. So you need to change it to texture_alignment=1 and that avoids the problem.
Obviously, only relevant if you use BspEditor.
I've Been Considering
#5236 posted by HeadThump on 2006/08/12 11:40:02
using the latest bspeditor for texturing because of those discrepencies. In GTKRadiant the texturing tool, the surface inspector, is geared towards q3map2 capabilaties, and when I see everything looking hunkydory in the editor and then screwed up in game, it is a bit of kneebiter.
You Can Turn That Off
#5237 posted by BlackDog on 2006/08/12 17:02:25
In 1.4, edit this line in local.pref
<epair name="Q3Map2Tex">true</epair>
In 1.5, I think it's an option in preferences.
Gah Fucking Ellipse BS
#5238 posted by BlackDog on 2006/08/12 17:07:10
<epair name="Q3Map2Tex"> true </epair>
With no spaces.
Thanks Blackdog
#5239 posted by HeadThump on 2006/08/12 18:56:05
I've tried that and I've been making a test map. The way it works reminds me of good old QeRadiant, but that is what I need!
Edict Count
#5240 posted by Baker on 2006/08/13 03:16:37
aguirRe's excellent engine shows the edict count of a map when a map is loaded.
What gets counted as an edict, for the purposes of maintaining compatibility with glquake/winquake?
My guess:
1. Monsters
2. Platforms/doors/triggers
3. But not lights except dynamic lights (torches)
Am I close?
Baker
#5241 posted by Kinn on 2006/08/13 04:33:46
the edict list consists of all entities in the map that haven't already been removed or made static. e.g. lights are removed on map spawn, except those associated with models, e.g. torches - but torches are made into static ents and hence don't contribute to the edict count either. Switchable lights however need to be interacted with, so are not removed and hence stay as edicts.
Any entity that is spawned during gameplay, e.g. a nail or rocket, is just as much an edict as one that spawns on map load, e.g. a monster. This is why maps that are already close to the edict limit on map load can be taken over the limit with lots of gibs or missiles flying around.
when an entity is removed, an edict slot is freed from the list and can be filled again by a newly spawned entity at a later date.
You Can Also
#5242 posted by aguirRe on 2006/08/13 09:07:38
enable scr_showedicts 1 to see the current active/max edict count in the map. It's the max count that must be <=600 to have the map playable in the original GL/WinQuake.
Also
#5243 posted by aguirRe on 2006/08/13 09:13:18
In my upcoming engines, I've added an alternate edict re-use policy to delay edict re-usage as much as possible to help catch some difficult QC errors. Together with the check for accessing free edicts, it's a lot easier to track edict morphing issues.
Night Journey, MOTRD
#5244 posted by shadowalker on 2006/08/13 12:12:11
I can't get those off the evilllll fileplanet. I need alternet direct download location. Does anyone have one?
as
Removing Gun For Screenshots
#5245 posted by Jed on 2006/08/13 12:16:32
Quick Question: How do you remove the player's gun to take map screenshots in Quake?
R_drawviewmodel 0
#5246 posted by bambuz on 2006/08/13 13:27:01
Func FP Account Details
#5247 posted by than on 2006/08/13 18:41:56
The old QMap pass doesn't work, so try these if you want files:
login: Func_MsgBoard
pass: Shambler
Aligning Textures
#5248 posted by Ankh on 2006/08/14 07:55:29
What is the best way to go with aligning textures on angled/skewed brushes?
I remember this topic was discussed on func a month or two ago but I can't find it.
Ankh
#5249 posted by than on 2006/08/14 09:52:26
rotation is your friend. Usually you will be rotating 45 (1:1), 27 (2:1) or 63 (1:2) degrees. Textures will normally still be skewed if the brush is angled on more than one axis (e.g. a curved trim that is sloped upwards) so the best thing to do is to use a fairly plain texture that doesn't have too much detail that would make it look obviously skewed.
I Didn't Notice
#5250 posted by inertia on 2006/08/14 12:01:02
until recently that Worldcraft (versions 3.3 and above) have a nice set of buttons on the texture properties dialog:
Textures can be fit across one face or multiple faces, or aligned to the left, right, top, bottom, and center of faces with a single button click.
http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?go=hammer
Which One Of These Isn't Like The Other?
I don't know why, but for some reason the texture alignments I make in Radiant for this angled stairtrim <href=http://biff.leveldesign.org/pics/base_defuckt.jpg>here</a> don't look the same ingame. I've heard from SPoG that it could be a compiler error, but I'm not sure what to do if it is, and if it is. Gah.
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