I'm reserving color for specific purposes. You'll see! It's all part of a plan... 

I was going to say, use color for a purpose, not to just to make the map more colorful. 

Add more rainbows. 

You heard him, Asaki.

http://redwax.circa1984.com/random/zwifbday.jpg 

.. where are the sharks ? 

http://members.home.nl/gimli/hangar.jpg 

 

I suppose the door for planes are in the back of the shot... though... 

Remarkable enough there were a lot of people complaining there were no planes in Doom's Hangar.
Now you're worried how to get them out!

I wonder if there's no func_train to make them fly and shoot them out of the air with a trigger_multiple spawning the pilot . 

shoots look cool

Lunaran:
They used the secret where the wall lowers and opens to the courtyard with the slime pit/armour in the middle. 

"Charlie 9er, you are cleared for runway 2 over"

"Charlie 9er confirm, opening hangar doors now"

*dozens of attendants begin grunting against the walls until someone finds the trigger* 

are go!

Now I'm obliged to get some doors in. 

awesome takeoff procedure 

Looks like my placeholder textures (though mine are coloured). I've been half tempted to actually do a map like that rather than adding "proper" textures, since it does look kinda cool (hey, it worked for Warsow anyway). 

A 'The Cube' theme being talked about a while back - lots of func_train rooms. Could fit the texture theme. 

still working on this melee mod. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqj-NpgeSLk

so, just a little intro here:
max health = 500 now
regeneration: 100health + 200health over 12sec
invisibility: monsters can't attack you (for 10sec)
shift: teleport forwards (through monsters or telefragging them) 384 units
bind: make either a fiend or scragg your pet (they get stronger attacks, follow you and attack normal monsters)
damage you take is also split with the minion, although atm that's not very useful since they only attack monsters.

at this point, i have two choices:
1. combat based around hordes emphasizing positioning, crowd control, AoE and maneuvering
2. combat based around 1 or 2 monsters emphasizing debuffing, good footwork, cover and spell/energy conservation.

pets work for either large or small group combat. for example fiends hit multiple targets, scrags poison huge groups.

testing out horde combat atm, even without any AoE attacks. just lots of moving around, scrambling for cover as well as trying to stagger cooldown use so you always have a 'bailout' available.

the idea i'm going for is something like diablo where you're given a framework of spells/abilities and then thrown in a situation where you need to work out how best to use said spells/abilities. ie: this test map which is just about 15 shamblers and 20-30 hell knights in a small room with moderate cover. 

What song is that, I love it!
It's kinda hard to see what's going on but it sure looks fun. 

that's Beauty Never Fades, Junkie XL. it's the animatrix version.

and yeah, it's hard to see what's happening. i had to annotate when and what i was casting to help give some more indication on what's going on.

i'm still trying to see if i can balance it around running in normal maps, but it ends up being kind of boring only facing a couple of weak monsters at once.

i suppose i could make the player more fragile (and certainly the inability to pick up armour at all makes it more difficult) but the notion is that you are supposed to be playing a death king who was betrayed and stripped of most of his powers. 

http://www.deezer.com/#music/result/all/junkie%20xl 

I don't doubt there's more finesse than it looks like there is, but if you can't see any it's usually not as deep as you think. 

there's room for more interesting abilities, i think.

the thing i'm finding when i test stuff is that if there are a lot of abilities, you usually don't have time to pick the best choice in a heated combat situation.

so it's finding abilities that would be useful in a wide range of situations, don't unbalance gameplay and are fun that's the hard part.

ie: you used to be able to slow monsters down to 30% of their movement speed. it was very useful, but ultimately very boring. you'd get a mass of slow moving monsters in the center of a room. i replaced it with the teleport which, while less useful, makes gameplay faster by giving you really good maneuverability.

but yes, if you would consider a game like diablo or hellgate mindless, than that's definately what this mod would be to you. :) but then, quake itself isn't far off from that either. 

you don't just run up to stuff in quake and click it to death 

No, you stand back a ways and click it to death. 

oooauu baby 

No, you stand back a ways and click it to death.

hehe pretty much. :) i mean, sure you dodge shots and take cover in quake, but you do that in melee too, but aside from dodging shots, you're also juking back and forth to trigger melee attacks while avoiding the damage.
it's at least on par with quake in it's simplicity/complexity.
the big difference now is that item management is removed and placed in the player's hands.

i think what's maybe missing is more variety in the main attack-- the sword itself.

what i think i'll do is something like oblivion where the direction you move affects the type of swing you'll do.
back: normal damage + bleeding
forward: strong single attack (more damage if bleeding)
or there's the option of just making sword hits do different effects and you'd switch them like weapons in quake.

or something.

thanks for the feedback though, i appreciate it. :) very helpful while developing this on my own for so long.