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that map is pure class, easily your best gameplay map and the looks are as usual quality. Scale feels just right and plenty of nice trick jumps too.
If I get some time over the weekend, I will give this a whirl with a mate to see how weapon and item layout is. why is bot support so bad? nothing in the layout that should warrant it IMHO. Just a couple of ideas from looking at the mesh, but the first thing I thought wasn't missile launchers but that the end of the arm would extend on a rail and then slam back, like a piston, as a kind of mechanical punch attack. Maybe a bit close to the original CC only enemy.
If you remember the Robocop2 bad 'guy' you'll know what I mean. Mind you, if you're wanting that netherworld alien vibe then maybe the splinter cannon things could work with those blade-looking edges being a slice of the same crystal that the weapon fires, used as a cutting edge. Mind you, if you're wanting that netherworld alien vibe then maybe the splinter cannon things could work with those blade-looking edges being a slice of the same crystal that the weapon fires, used as a cutting edge.
That's a pretty cool idea. I could put some blue or blueish green colors in the palette to represent crystal surfaces. Me like cool monsters..... Me see many polygons and fear DP dependency.... I got carried away with the hands as I always do because they are the most challenging part of the anatomy to model. However, I'll scale those back and it should fit the Quake 1 limits fine. I'll test in both ToChris, a nice software rendered Quake, and also FitzQuake. They are both Quake standards compatible, whereas GLQuake isn't. At first I was thinking of Q3 type reflection shaderfx, but a nicely painted crystal would work on its own.
Polytrails! Bloom! ->It's Quake! Heh. Polytrails! Bloom!
Yeah, this one is going to be completely retro (I'll include 24 bit targas non palette converted files for all of the model skins, and textures as a seperate down load for those who want that), just some additional smoothing, higher polies since no one still uses PII's and gyro physics in the game play. It is really the heart of why I started this little project. Working title for it is Ferocity, FWIW Mortisville is still around, but I'm moving it over to Quoth and using the assets for something else in the works. http://lunaran.com/images/maps/lundm1_1.jpg
thread at some icky other forum: http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3076 beta: http://lunaran.com/files/lundm1g.zip Mainly looking for gameplay feedback, because inertia and I have polished it up as far as a filename that ends in "g", so a wider base of opinions would be helpful. But a few comments:
1. Sound for the lift is b0rked. 2. Maybe *too* friendly towards slope-jumping, i.e. some of the slope trim makes it a "go anywhere" map and could reduce navigation challenge. 3. Rivets on the orange texture are ugly, and there is perhaps a bit too much orange texture. Smaller rivets and perhaps another texture might be nice. Other than that I think it's cool. Good design, good build, good theme. Quad placement is genius. Looks very "fast and furious". Hmmm. What are good bots these days?? I would rather ask for a server where the map is downloaded: any QWers interested ? I like when people kick my ass on QW... I'm not that good in DM you know :P
The lift is silent intentionally, because when it was the only thing in the map that made a lift sound it was really easy to gank anyone using it in a tournament.
And it has less orange than efdm9 which was not too orange for anyone! reminds me of TF2 maps for some reason. I think its the panelled buildings and various windows and angled roof parts that do it.
Looks nice, if I still had quake 3 still I would give it a try for sure. I thought a modern version of "The Doom that came to Dunwich" Fingers made back in the day.
I could load it in Warsow, but then the weapons wouldn't all work :( Is blender a free program? I remember reading something like that a while ago...
How is it compared to 3dsmax? I think Blender is still free. I'm not an expert on either program, but Blender seems to be very useful/powerful and easy to learn for being free.
http://www.blender.org/
Indeed its still free, and seems very feature complete. I've only been looking at it for 20 minutes, the interface is very alien to me so far but im sure it will fall into place with time and practice. of Max nor Maya. I have older versions of both on disk but haven't bothered to install on this system as Blender suits my needs. Blender is easier to use than any of the previous versions of Max, and the tools set is modern enough for what I want to do with it.
There is a learning curve with animation, but modeling is easy. I'll give you a quick lesson now that will be useful in 90 percent of what you do in Blender. See that cube up in the middle of the screen at start up? Notice the interface beneath, it says object mode on the menu bar. Press the tab key, now it flips into edit mode. Press the little hand that you see on menu tab. Now the green and arrows surrounding the cube are gone. I get rid of these first thing for no other reason than they annoy the fuck out of me. Look farther down the menu bar, and you will see a triangle. Press that, and you are now in face mode (vertice manipulation is the starting point in edit mode). Now press your alt key down and at the same time press the left mouse button. The view point rotates around now. Play with it until you get a good view of the top cube face. Now move the cross hairs over to the face, press the right mouse button. It will highlight that face. Press the E key (for extend), and then you can move the mouse up and down to extend the new poly you have created. Pressing Y, X and Z will alter the direction of the extension. Other buttons that are useful, 's' for scale, 'g' for get and 'r' for rotate, and space bar menu-ed options. Master these functions and the work flow will flow. To manipulate the perspective use the 1, 3 and 7 keys, and you will get top, front, and right views. CTRL key + 1 or 3 or 7 will show you the back face of each of those perspectives. The other numbers have similar functions worth exploring. CTRL + alt + LeftMB will allow you to zoom in and out. CTRL + Shift + LeftMB will allow you to slide the screen like a sliding bar. (Sorry for the lame attempt at a joke. Was spoilt be the other guy and blah)
A few minor things I noticed: There's a portal issue (two missing faces) in the lava near the lower SNG. Some misaligned textures: lava hole (Quad), blue light trims. It would look better if the textures on the 45� faces were scaled to 0.75, though it would probably mean too much additional work to make their edges fit with the adjacent ones. There's a hollow space under the upper RL. Not really necessary, but what about sky textures behind the teleporters to remove bullets? I like the way the Quad is placed, it's much better than before - reduces the chances of permanent Quad rape. just about gotten this badbwoi to the beta stage and could use a couple of volunteers to steer it in the right direction. only needs a fullvis (which i'm gonna do tonight)
http://isoterra.co.uk/stuff/e2m5/e2m5rmx.htm (as you can probably tell from the screenies it doesn't follow the original too religiously, but the base layout is there) i was going to add... if anyone fancies volunteering then let me know what email address to post it to.
oh god yeah. The original is one of my favourite original maps, and that looks amazing.
Not testing though :)
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