to clarify, that's reject news with the footnote added by me. 

quote from ydnar @ q3w: It is absolutely gorguous and really shows off what is possible with the Quake 3 engine, where cost is no object. Unfortunately there isn't a computer that exists at present which could run this map with anything resembling a playable framerate.

The framerate isn't "that" bad (10-30fps for me (1.8ghz gf3)) and it looks just awesome !

screenshot: http://zfight.com/misc/images/mappingliga_01.jpg
download: http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/mrh_dm3-alpha.zip (30mb) 

Cool map, though.

But alphas aren't news. 

 

It looked legitimate, until i downloaded it. Filename has "alpha" in it, plus the readme is garbage, plus the levelshot has "alpha" on it ... so i had to quickly repair the damage :P 

Just took a good long look at the map. It's totally badass. Of course, like all art maps, even if it ran smoothly it would still have horrible gameplay (it's like q3dm0 quality.) 

how can i get this map to run? i get a hunc alloc failed at 1428 or something error... i'm guess it's because i need to allocate more ram, but i don't know how to do that in q3... i tried -heapsize 256000 but it didn't do anything... any tips? 

com_hunkmegs 256000 

Get the fish coffin!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20040701/mdf615762.jpg 

the skybox doesn't really match the lighting. 

the apartment blocks, the white sky of boring death
impressive stuff.

Btw, too much detail, runs like shit, no layout? Maybe someone should convert it to ut2004 ;) 

the point of it is to look nice, not to be a gameplay map.

another reason it's not a newsable 'map'. 

 

Does that mean maps with great gameplay but shit graphics shouldn't be news either?

It's a map, people are interested in it and would discuss it... why not news? 

hm... i looked around in it.

it's ok, but it's not that good. there's a severe lack of lighting detail... hardly any shadows. it could definatly have used more constrast. what with all the overhanging stuff, the map could have had some really impressive shadow effects, especially since you can draw the shadows by hand in q3, (right?)

also, the rain sound was annoying because it was way too short and obviously looped. 

New Telejano 8.01 is released with better handling of Nehara mod, heighfield maps, internet netcode, scripted menus, etc..

I feel lucky bastard.

Scampie the evil Moderator Note: Rejected news.
no link, no real info, and doesn't state why mappers even care, if you can't bother putting SOME effort into a news submittal, then I can't be bothered to seek out info and post it. 

what makes it a 'map'? it's a low poly model that happens to be rendered by Quake3. It's nice to look at, but who fucking cares if there's no substance? 

who fucking cares

The people discussing it in GA?

Never thought I'd have to say this on a mapping forum, but not everything has to revolve around gameplay. 

alternate file hosting?
is there anywhere that i can host my maps other than fileplanet without having to sign up to another webhost as well?

also, i think the map could have been made news because it would have been nice to discuss some of the stuff about it... you should be a bit more leniant scampie. ;) 

So the only requirement to be a map in your mind is the ability to run in a game? Or should we sink further into mapper's masturbatary material and just say that any 3d space is a 'map' and fit to be posted on func_msgboard?

Perhaps it's just the generic term 'map' that's the problem here. Let's get more specific and say this is not a 'level', which I'd define in a FPS as a 3d enviroment that the player is trapped into to play the game. Without weapons, dm spawns, multi-floored design, etc, there is no gameplay, which means no fun. So where's the point in the game? Like it or not, everything does revolve around gameplay.

This is a level design forum, we are interested in building levels and enjoying their gameplay. "That looks nice" or "doesn't run on my computer" isn't really discussion relevant to 'levels' where gameplay is the important factor.

That's not to say this map isn't a wonderful example of what the Quake3 engine can do in terms of realistic design, but that's not really the point here. I like pretty things as much as anyone else, but a nice looking level without gameplay is just fodder for someone's portfolio, a simple model to show off. I'd rather our news not serve as someone's way to being famous, but as a place for people to find enjoyable levels to play. 

You're wrong. You should be encouraging a diverse mapping-related usage of Func_QMap, not discouraging it. 

he's going to optimise it to make it run on some super computers, maybe then it can be news. 

it worked fine on mine after i use the com_hunkmegs setting... there's nothing techincally wrong with it that i could tell...

well, besides the fact that almost all objects are non solid (detail?) brushes... that sort of bugged me... plus you can't get to all the overhanging areas, which sucks. that would have been really cool. ^_^ 

Does anyone have the original zip, or even a .txt for the Quake DM map bsdm8? 

I don't have a text file, but perhaps this will help:

http://pipeline.fov120.com/info.php4?mapid=110&game=1&mode=compact&status=inprogress&page=1