Great!
#4661 posted by Ankh on 2006/01/10 07:46:17
I was worried already that I have to cut something out. Yesterday I have panically deleted some triggers to get below the limit :)
Than, I Need Some Clarification
#4662 posted by czg on 2006/01/11 01:33:28
What is going on here?
v = (a.d * (CVector::crossProduct(b.n, c.n))
+b.d * (CVector::crossProduct(c.n, a.n))
+c.d * (CVector::crossProduct(a.n, b.n)))
/ denom;
Are you dividing a vector? How the hell does that even work? Is / denom; the same as * (1 / denom);?
This is why I don't like operator overloading. :(
CZG
#4663 posted by than on 2006/01/11 04:50:31
I've forgotten completely. I don't even remember what denom was.
Here's the CVector declaration for the / operator.
inline CVector operator / (float s) const { s = 1/s; return CVector(x*s, y*s, z*s); }
So er, yeah, dividing a vector I suppose.
I think I assigned it that operator because some tutorial in a book or on the net had done that, and I really liked operator overloading.
I don't think I ever understood the maths for this part of the compiler, I just accepted it and got on with the other shit :)
Why are you interested in this stuff, btw? Are you making a game of some sort, writing a tool to export from .map to .3ds/whatever or something more sinister involving dancing badgers?
Anyway, like I said before, you can have the source if you like. The game and all the really badly written documentation can be found here: http://than.spawnpoint.org/files/clayer_full.zip (10mb, sorry, it includes the game and some other shit.)
SHIT! I just looked in the zip and found probably the exact file that you need. I looked it up on google just now and found a link for you http://folk.uio.no/stefanha/MAPFiles.pdf
Hehe
#4664 posted by than on 2006/01/11 04:52:34
the google results also included the file linked in a reply to a question I asked on Flipcode, back when it was running.
Pharaoh Type Monster
#4665 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/12 12:21:25
Time dulls the mind, again.
Which Quake level had the pharaoh-looking monster that rose out of the ground?
Mike...
#4666 posted by generic on 2006/01/12 12:47:00
Do you mean the dudes with the staves in Dissolution of Eternity?
Generic
#4667 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/12 14:16:25
You got it, thanks.
Mike
#4668 posted by Kell on 2006/01/12 15:45:20
those 'dudes with the staves' are bad models with utterly abominable animations. The skins are pretty good, but that doesn't save them. Please don't put them in a map.
Quake Monster Creation
#4669 posted by than on 2006/01/12 17:13:50
So, are there any good tutorials about this on the net?
Good & Goods
#4670 posted by madfox on 2006/01/12 21:32:02
Kell
#4671 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/12 23:03:53
Yes, now I have seen it again, I agree that it's not too clever.
I was only thinking about the code for making a monster rise out of the ground. I didn't realise that it was done via animation - I though it would be the opposite of a sinking dead monster.
...and I Didn't Want To Reinvent The Wheel
#4672 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/12 23:10:55
So anyway, hub, spokes, rim...
#4673 posted by Kell on 2006/01/13 02:04:57
...axle?
Kell
#4674 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/13 11:24:28
Jeez, I doubt that I'll manage two wheels!
Yes But
#4675 posted by Kell on 2006/01/13 11:57:17
even one needs an axle, otherwise you don't have a wheel, you just have a disk.
Oh, Oh...
#4676 posted by Mike Woodham on 2006/01/13 13:04:10
Wheels don't need axles to be wheels, they need axles to work as wheels.
That's rather like the notice you can see in the Chinese by the traffic lights at the bottom of the hill: 'This door must be kept closed when not in use'
Hardly mapping but an interesting paradox if you think a little laterally.
Mike Woodham Rolling On Dubs
can a mapper get tabledance
+a
a tabledance
No Valid Wadfiles In Worldmodel
#4679 posted by nylon on 2006/01/16 04:55:47
"no valid wadfiles in worldmodel"
i do get that warning when trying to bsp a map with txqbsp..
the map was imported from a wc map..
i tried different wad files, but no change..
the bsp is therefore not usable..
what is this worldmodel? (sry new to mapping)
Nylon
#4680 posted by JPL on 2006/01/16 05:26:24
Check if your map file is pointing on the correct .wad path you want to apply on.. I guess it is the problem... Map files give the path to a gfx directory where wad file(s) is(are) explicitely named..
If you point wrongly, you may have this kind of warning...
Yeah
#4681 posted by bambuz on 2006/01/16 11:39:16
you can look at the .map file with a text editor to see to what .wad and path it is pointing to, it's right there in the beginning.
Yeah Worked.. But..
#4682 posted by nylon on 2006/01/16 16:50:59
i looked into the map file with an editor and set the complete path to wad.. the bsp file was usable.. thx!
but, the reason i changed from wc to radiant was that i had probs on my map like rotating packs, no blood on lg hit, no boomstick smoke at walls except at the ceiling.. (jago told me that it must be an engine problem, should there be onyl the pure original quake.exe in the quake folder?)
well in order to check that, i rebuilt the map purely in radiant, so no importing issues..
but what happens now on bsping the map is weird.. 4 warnings..! :( (no wad files in specified worldmodel, no valid wadfiles in worldmodel, No entities in empty space -- no filling performed)
i checked the map file and there isnt even a line that says wad or messag or light..
just "classname" "worldspawn" and brush coordinates..
do i have to set it somewhere? the wad files are in my ID folder, which is correctly recognized by radiant.. and where can i set the map message?
i hope u guys can help me :/
#4683 posted by Kell on 2006/01/16 17:03:32
depends which version of GtkR you're using: 1.5 is...different, and I'm not familiar with it.
But the wad information should be in the worldspawn entity. WC automatically added it, based on whatever wads you loaded into WC via the options panel.
In Radiant, select any normal ( non entity ) brush, bring up the entity properties and add this key/value manually:
wad
c:\quake\id1\blah.wad
This should be explained in the notes at the top of the entity properties window in Radiant though.
Nylon
#4684 posted by JPL on 2006/01/16 22:44:16
I suggest you read aguirRe's Quake Tool tips document: it shoud help you to solve your issues
http://user.tninet.se/%7Exir870k/tooltips.txt
Hope it helps...
All Right!
#4685 posted by nylon on 2006/01/17 01:31:41
yeah! those fully adressed my problems!
a bit confusing after getting things like that done by wc automatically..
jpl, i had that url.. i should have RTFM ;) THX!
what remains are those engine(?) problems i mentioned before (yes, even with enhanced quake version)
maybe u guys could take a look if i built anything dumb?
http://www.egozelle.com/stuff/map_prob.jpg
since it might be hard to see what i prolly done wrong, i could uploadthe mapfile later on.. if someone wants to take a look..
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