Func_Msgboard: Modern Downtown/city Maps For Q1/Q2?

Posted by PikaCommando on 2015/07/30 10:13:54

Anyone know some good modern/futuristic city/downtown custom maps for Quake 1 and Quake 2 (can be either SP or MP, but preferably SP)?

I've been trying to make a downtown map in Trenchbroom now for both games, but now matter how I set up the brushes as buildings and streets, they just end up like Doom 2's Downtown level instead which looks nothing like a downtown.

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#26 posted by eukara on 2015/08/05 15:45:27

They are released as part of a mod I made...
http://euksy.oldtimes-software.com/files/Quake/qreate-0.9-release-beta.tar.gz

They are inside the maps folder as qr_alley and qr_lost - the latter one is incomplete.
Also contained are some other maps I made (I am a sucker for Kingpin textures)

http://euksy.oldtimes-software.com/files/Quake/qr_manor5.png
http://euksy.oldtimes-software.com/files/Quake/qr_manor3.png
http://euksy.oldtimes-software.com/files/Quake/qr_manor1.png

Not really city related, but hey it's the TR manor!!! My version made from memory though (except for the maze and the freezer)

Muh

#27 posted by ijed on 2015/08/05 15:59:53

Cities in Quake tend to look weird. The player is a dwarf who can run incredibly fast.

As soon as you start putting in human sized things it goes sideways.

The trick to making a city work would be distorting the proportions to support quake and avoiding things that remind the player of their own size.

A lamp post that towers overhead could work, but a fire hydrant at waist height wouldn't.

Or maybe that's nonsense and smaller elements just need to be properly made on a 2x2 grid.

Although

#28 posted by ijed on 2015/08/05 16:00:47

Human sized doors are usually odd - they remind the player how short they are...

#29 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/08/05 16:41:59

Yep, agreed. That's why abstract environments work best in Quake. Realistic dimensions look goofy.

#30 posted by Rick on 2015/08/05 17:37:42

I once tried to make an 8 sided cylinder with a domed end, a lot like a fire hydrant. I don't remember how big, but definitely 16 units or smaller across, maybe only 8, on a grid of 1. Could not make it work, it always came out highly distorted when seen in the game.

That was many years ago, maybe it would work better now. I remember the last Quake map I released, at a little over 450 lights the light maps started to become corrupted, so some things have gotten better.

Waht About Your Well Of Wishes Rick?

#31 posted by mfx on 2015/08/05 18:13:10

#32 posted by adib on 2015/08/05 18:24:50

As long as you don't see other people, when it's just the first person POV and the environment, it's not that hard to fool player's eyes.

#33 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/08/05 18:34:22

When you walk up to a door and the handle hits you in the forehead, it's hard to fool the player.

#34 posted by oh, that person on 2015/08/05 18:44:48

cylinder with a domed end, a lot like a

Wish 13

#35 posted by Rick on 2015/08/05 19:24:07

Got burnt out on mapping last summer and took a year break. Just got back on it a couple of weeks ago. I think this is the last screen I uploaded.

http://quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/wish13_o.jpg

It hasn't changed much. I've fixed all but one of the major problems it had and it mostly just needs a little polish at this point. I'm seriously considering doing something for map jam6, but after that I will finish up Wish 13 for sure. If you want to look, there are a few more screens at quaketastic.com, just look for ones that start off with "wish". They aren't recent though, some things have changed.

Rick

#36 posted by mfx on 2015/08/05 20:01:53

Nice, i know some of the shots already, still good to hear you work on it!

The Dopefish

#37 posted by adib on 2015/08/05 21:43:37

awaits you there.

Wanna play.

WarrenM

#38 posted by adib on 2015/08/05 21:47:19

You're just not being deceitful enough. Lower the handle.

#39 posted by JneeraZ on 2015/08/05 22:23:57

I wish you luck. Godspeed.

#26

#40 posted by former_total_newbie on 2015/08/05 22:30:58

Checked out qr_alley, it's small but really nice.

I could see something like this working really well in Q1SP, inherent scale issues notwithstanding. PikaCommando, I would say definitely download it and have a look; it seems to fit your requirements to a T.

And +1 for #15!

#24

#41 posted by JPL on 2015/08/07 20:16:44

Reminds me Fragtown DM series :)

Proportions - You Can Have The Best Of Both Worlds Actually

#42 posted by Kinn on 2015/08/09 12:44:03

Realistically proportioned architecture for the main playable spaces sucks arse, for both combat and navigation. However...I've found that more realistically scaled side-rooms and other nooks and crannies can be tucked away off the beaten track within a larger main structure and it can work pretty well.

E.g. make a big-arse quake-esque fantasy castle, but you can always refine the chunky macro structure in places with some small storage rooms, sleeping quarters, jail cells etc. to add flavour and more interest.

#43 posted by skacky on 2015/08/09 14:45:38

There was also this, by Glassman. https://www.quaddicted.com/_media/pipeline/glassman_gmsp2-1.jpg

Deathmatch

#44 posted by Teknoskillz on 2016/02/07 08:05:56

There is one not mentioned here I think, its got a sewer system, and a warehouse, and a room with computer monitors running.

Its DISDM4, City of Sin.

#45 posted by Shamblernaut on 2016/02/07 08:24:33

could probably make some interesting mirror's edge-esque maps with some clean textures.

For One Of My Map In My Mod I'll Take Inspiration From This One

#46 posted by aDaya on 2016/02/07 11:08:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9buU-_Vbqeo

Sure it's Daikatana but considering it's the only game that comes close to replicating Q1's movement I think it's worth mentionning.

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