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#tf / Func_qmap BEEF Thread.
Inspired by Scampie who has more beef going than the average American "lite" breakfast =).

So let's have it out here...

Scampie vs. Xen

Scampie vs. ProdXL

Maj vs. ProdXL

(actually most people vs. ProdXL)

Wrath vs. Everyone

Grindspire vs. someone it seems

Me vs. Speedy occasionally

Mod-makers vs. well they just look like a right bunch of knobs anyway.

etc.
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I Must Be Out Of The Loop 
Who is this person and why is he mad? 
Awww 
I’m the 1000’s of skills guy

I guess it's a shame those skills don't include the all-important "Ability to not act like a little toddler having a paddy".

Bless his cotton socks. :) 
Gypsy 
Please copy and paste what I posted about you. And make sure and add the dates. I don't recall posting anything negative about you once we got to know each other. But then again I am pretty oblivious. Set the record straight for me. Or I dunno direct message me so we can talk like adults. 
 
I am writing this as a longtime member of func. That has gone long enough and in the end it is too much for me. For obvious reasons, I choose to be anonymous.

Dear John Fitzgibbons, will you seriously continue to support the abuse of people on this site?

Above you have Shambler copying the collapse of a poor soul on the internet "in case he deletes them". Shambler is a moderator for func_msgboard, so you do not just let them publish vile garbage like above, you pretty much reward them with power over this community.

The person said they have to fight PTSD and BiPolar episodes. And here we have Shambler gleefully and with the support of other members make fun of it. This is neither the first time nor even something to be surprised about. The Quake community could be stronger than it has been for a long time, but instead you let a a couple of psychos drive out both oldtimers and newbieswith their continued shit.

Please consider not only the damages these actions cause to the community but, especially in this case, the effects on a person mentally struggling.

Quite a few people here are certainly familiar with mental health problems. "Normal" people rarely care about a 20 year old video game. 
Fuck Off Scampie. 
 
Come On Anon Coward. 
Get a grip. Your aims might be right but stand by your own convictions. 
 
Quite a few people here are certainly familiar with mental health problems. "Normal" people rarely care about a 20 year old video game.

I like how you post this big thing complaining about abuse and then just call us all mentals at the end anyway.

Anyway whatever, anonyclown, I'm off to follow this goose for a bit 
 
Are newbies really scared off by how mean func is?

I'll just go on the record and say the reason I've been neglecting mapping has more to do with being a lazy stoner than my having problems with the community.

Did Bloughsburg really leave? If so that's a shame. 
 
This was not meant as an insult or abuse, but as a true statement. Friends talk privately over the years. Several people know my own struggles and I know them. Your reactions show that you have no regard for mental problems and I'm glad I stayed anonymous ... Metal issues are not something adults considering funny or appropriate to use as insults, specially if true. 
Cool 
Glad that you're the authority on what everyone else knows about mental health issues. You might have noticed that I have not posted any quotes about Gypsy's mental health issues, only the more outrageous non-mental-health-related statements about himself, his threats, and his insults to other people, that he choose to write (and I'm assuming it took him long enough that he had plenty of time to even temporarily transcend his mental health issues and reconsider his words) and choose to make publicly available. 
Shambler 
I think you misspoke. #429 has some metal health quotes above. 
Late Night Musings 
Somehow feel this BEEF thread is a sort of "rite of passage"! You get into with some here, get your ass kicked, or mutually hold your ground and then... come out the other side in good standing, relatively speaking, hehe. Sure, you may be a bit bloody but HEY.. it's QUAKE so... par for the course.

Or maybe I'm just reading to much into it :-P 
Dumptruck 
That #429 post was posted as a thread on here and I moved it wholesale - I only put that in quote text to highlight it was someone else's different thread.

I was referring to my cherrypick quoting later on in the second large post #433. 
I For One 
liked G's voice in his vids, as well as shamblernaught's voice, and on the other hand the other shambler voice is a pretty meh voice 
Spy Is Disqualified For Being Irrelevant And Inebriated During The Awa 
color me surprised 
It's Actually A Common Practice 
talking shit behind the back for TF regulars 
And Were's 
the ssacki-repus drama? ah, the other shambler's befriended ssacki, so won't expect that drama here 
 
The soul of a single virtuous man hath the worth of ten evil men, for canst not the virtuous man both slay the wicked and preserve his own? 
Terrafusion... 
Terrafusion never changes.

Lol. 
So ?? 
.. drama is over ? 
Test 
Drama is never over. 
Beef. 
Beef never changes. 
Happy New Year. 
 
Okay This Is Not Beef, But This Needs To Be Enshrined Forever. 
And didn't know where else to put it:

[17:59] Clench Throckmorton: i'm tempted to spare you the deets of my latest bathroom expedition @Shambler
[18:00] Clench Throckmorton: there was no joy to be had in it, especially not for me
[18:00] Clench Throckmorton: at one point, i honestly thought I was about to pull an elvis
[18:01] Clench Throckmorton: and the thought ran through my mind "which poor fucker will be the one who finds me like this?"
[18:01] Clench Throckmorton: tldr version....
[18:01] Clench Throckmorton: the quality of my diet over christmas went to absolute fucking pot
[18:02] Clench Throckmorton: and I very painfully paid the price in an unbelievably unpleasant and torturous way
[18:02] Clench Throckmorton: at one point i had to literally work it out with a fucking finger
[18:03] Clench Throckmorton: that has added a few mental scars i can fucking tell you that for nothing
[18:03] Clench Throckmorton: anyway, not in the best of moods right now.
[18:03] Clench Throckmorton: gonna have a cuppa and reflect on the new year
[18:03] Clench Throckmorton: maybe i do things differently from now on, i dunno
 
 
Ok,

People who are just a bit off, as many are, openly or suppressed, but not offensive - I do not see them getting treated meanly for just being odd or saying odd stuff. This I would say is an even a better outcome than would become to, say, a kid in school being odd :D

Someone having a meltdown - suffering of mental illness, of whichever degree, well, what ?

Does having a disease excuse antisocial behavior in society at large ? Should it here ? Why should it particularly be that people are supposed to react in a special way here ?

What happens in public if one starts ranting off aggressively at people ? They stop and say - oh no poor dear he has a mental illness we must embrace his shitty attitude ?

Don't get me wrong, some metldowns are indeed gut wrenching (for anyone with a touch of empathy) but expecting internet people on forums to not take a slag at such meltdown especially if it contains insulting content - is just out of touch.

People with severe mental illness do need help and not dissing, but among a loose knit group of game/creative enthusiasts is not the place to hope to get it from. its not the function of such a place, it is not a "safe space", its a community of rando people tied by interest in creative activities, no more. You will get unpleasant brush ups with what you perceive to be unpleasant people, one has to deal with such things, it is not elsewise outside the house.
You might through PM get something more, forge a closer friendship with some members of such a community, but this is not going to happen with any community "at large" othe than ones focused on being support groups around the subject of mental illness. 
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