I bought AvP, played it for about 15 minutes, and never picked it up again. I would say avoid it, but if there's a demo go ahead and try it. 

will mull it over. 

Puzzle game where you need to figure out how to play, and how to win:

http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/nawnco/

Once you win, see if you can figure out an efficient strategy for winning. 

Looks like there are a shitload of other games and misc. apps on the author's page here: http://www.increpare.com/ 

If you don't have these games, $5 is super worth it. These are probably my favorite 'modern' FPS games. They are fantastic. 

I bought both of those about 2 months ago for $40~ together iirc. >.< 

Is there any singleplayer FPS that has maps like Quake has? Semi- but definitely non-realistic abstract maps with hints at reality but overall making no sense at all. Following no realistic themes (Quake 2, Painkiller do that for example), no story to speak of. Environments that are just gameplay. 

 

I forgot to add "extensive(?) 3D" to that. Also, post Quake. 

Maybe Painkiller/Dreamkiller or whatever. Serious Sam perhaps? 

Wolfenstein remake boss-levels 

? 

Prey? 

Also, err. Ummm.

Fuck knows. There might be more. Some of the 3PS / Fantasy stuff is more like that. FAKK2, Enclave, that sort of shizzle. 

are of you UK folk able to please buy Bioshock 2 as a gift it for me?

Can paypal funds over later. On Steam (AU), it's $12.49 which isnt much but hey if I cant get if for $5 why not.

Profile name - n_gulati 

 

so request open to US people too.

And no havent played Portal yet. Still making my way through Far Cry 2. 

nitin If you add me to your flist then I will gladly give you the gift of BioShock 2. 

Cardo has your copy. Please ask him for it. 

Is there any singleplayer FPS that has maps like Quake has? Semi- but definitely non-realistic abstract maps with hints at reality but overall making no sense at all. Following no realistic themes (Quake 2, Painkiller do that for example), no story to speak of. Environments that are just gameplay.

Well, in terms of combat they do things very differently to your typical FPS, but I'm rather fond of the Metroid Prime games. MP3 was built for the Wii; MP1 and MP2 were made for Gamecube but now have slightly updated versions available on the Wii.

It's all about the environment with these games, to the point that combat often gets completely sidelined to make way for long stretches of first-person platform/puzzle gameplay in really bleak/tranquil/crazy alien environments. Because they are wierd and alien, the environments are generally pretty abstract. They are also pretty hardcore games mostly because of quite a few grindingly frustrating "brick wall" boss combats, but if you can stomach those without throwing your console out the window you will be rewarded with some pretty cool and unique shooter/platformer/puzzler gameplay. There's nothing else really like those games to be honest.

I still think MP1 is the best, and certainly has the most atmospheric and remote feeling; a real sense of being completely isolated on a forgotten alien world. 

will do it when I get home from work. Please tell me where to send the money.

Thanks heaps! 

No monies necessary. 

I mentioned painkiller as an example that is not what I am looking for. First of all it is very 2D, secondly the levels follow distinct themes and iirc are rather realistic and last but not least the combat is horde stupidity. The same applies to serious sam (maybe not the second one? That one felt more like a console rails shooter when I played the demo.)

Portal is not a fps. It is a first person puzzle game.

some third person games are really more like it. I thought of tomb raider too (hey gb!) but that game has realistically themed levels. Alice is more like it (actually seeing the new Alice's gameplay made me think of this question). I look for fps though.

prey I tried the demo once and it turned me off. isn't the rest of the game some quake2/4/doom3ish alien environments?

will check out the new wolfenstein!

playing metroid x(?) on the gba was an amazing experience. abstraction and gameplay-oriented layout is obvious though as it is a 2d platformer. unfortunately I got stuck at some stupid boss fight and lost interest. Quake and games like metroid have a lot of similarities (which many people overlook) and one could make great fresh Quake thing if orienting on metroid's game design patterns. talking about 2d here but from what I heard/saw so far of the 3d ones they managed to transport them well. gotta try playing them or at least watch play videos. this really could be more like Quake. probably still following an overall theme though. thanks! 

might be suitable spirit. Levels are themed to an extent but themese vary enough arbitrarily. 

you're a champ!