Notes:
#420 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 14:36:51
the two week delay would only be for threads, not posts. And I still think anonymous posting is worth keeping.
Re: deleting accounts -- this creates orphaned threads/posts which is a data integrity problem. But more importantly, it encourages people to just register another account. Banning by IP is better.
IP Bans Then.
#421 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 16:50:34
because it's easy to register again.
Do We Really Need IP Bans?
#422 posted by pushplay on 2004/10/06 17:14:50
Has anything really happened that a couple of warnings to fuck off hasn't yet solved?
No,
#423 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 17:36:02
but what's wrong with having the capability?
even if you never turned your stereo up past 1/4 volume, wouldn't you rather have some pretty decent and powerful speakers so that that one day, where you throw a party, you can crank it up?
#424 posted by - on 2004/10/06 18:07:41
IP bans for actual rogue abusers would be a metlslime thing and really aren't something that needs to be 'implented' as a simple script for blocking IPs to the /board/ directory of celephias.net is easily dropped into place.
I like the idea of approved threads best, so all things could be regulated let that, while still allowing everyone to make a new thread. With this, I'd also hope for the funtionality to create new threads from any old post, so that if one mod decides a thread isn't good but everyone disagrees, you could easily 'upgrade it'. And things like the food thread won't happen where the idea for the thread is an idea by many, and we end up with multiples.
Things Should Be Regulated Automatically
#425 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 19:21:02
and not dependant on the moderators.
RPG:
#426 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 19:27:42
so, i write an algorithm that can tell when someone should be banned, whether a thread is worthy of being news, etc?
Precisely
#427 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 19:49:27
But I understand that your time is limited due to your pursuit of glasses-wearing Asian babes, so I would settle just for requiring a timelimit of 24 hours before allowing a new user to post threads.
I'm betting that most people who want to make a useful new thread have probably been visiting the forum for a while, and thus would not mind waiting 24 hours to start a thread. They'll be coming back to check on the forum anyway, so waiting a day will not cause them to forget about the topic.
#428 posted by - on 2004/10/06 20:03:32
so, what you're saying is we should become further enthralled in our cause to drive away newbies by enforcing the old boy's club?
Approving Threads
#429 posted by Jago on 2004/10/06 20:13:58
I think it would be a good idea to make "unupproved threads" visible to the general public in some separate, but easily visible link on the menu. After the thread gets a number (say 5) of approvements from forum posters, it gets added to the main thread list.
#430 posted by - on 2004/10/06 21:01:05
you mean, once the poster creates 5 dummie accounts and approves his own thread. or a coder posting his new mod project pimp finds 5 friends to come vote. or 5 of our own anarchist idiots vote yes.
i don't like the idea, but the idea of unapproved threads being visible to all sounds good to me.
Unapproved Threads
#431 posted by pushplay on 2004/10/06 22:29:46
But I'm going to visit all those anyways and I bet most people would. That's just unecessary clicks for me and unecessary work for mods.
#432 posted by - on 2004/10/06 22:39:22
the point being that the unapproved threads wouldn't have posts allowed, and we'd be able to rid the shit threads easily.
Hmm....
#433 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 22:45:12
some interesting ideas.
Metlslime...
#434 posted by - on 2004/10/06 22:51:10
get on irc, I need to speak with you privately about something I think you've been missing in this whole issue.
Scampie:
#435 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/07 05:25:22
uh, i guess you'll have to mail me.
Scampie
#436 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/07 17:31:40
so, what you're saying is we should become further enthralled in our cause to drive away newbies by enforcing the old boy's club?
Wait. What've you been smoking?
If someone wants to post a meaningful thread, they're already part of the club. There is effectively no waiting period because they've already joined.
Furthermore, I would argue that having a thread-approval system would further increase strife and the supposed old boys club. We get into the position of you (meaning scampie) disapproving a thread, and spouting off harshly at the creator. This creates division. This would be especially true about threads that are in the gray area of worth.
Furthermore, this also puts forth the opportunity for power abuse, which you have already shown us that you (scampie) are capable of and even relish in.
This is why I dislike the concept of approving threads.
#437 posted by - on 2004/10/07 18:44:50
power abuse
which is why I suggested the system of checks and balence of everyone being able to see unapproved threads, and the ability to make any post, which would include rejected threads, into a thread so any strong disagreement could be fixed.
I hate the idea of forcing everyone to reg a free account, and wait any period of time, just to post. We have plenty of regulars who don't even have accounts, or don't like to log into them. The board should remain open, I'd just like to see moderation play a larger part in making things work smoothly.
And Along With Moderation...
#438 posted by - on 2004/10/07 18:47:52
a better, well defined set of 'rules' in the FAQ so that everyone, including mods, knows what stands and what doesn't.
Just To Be Clear,
#439 posted by HeadThump on 2004/10/07 19:05:11
if the cookies are working and showing my screen name and new post enumeration, I'm logged in right?
HeadThump
#440 posted by Kell on 2004/10/07 19:37:10
if it at the top of the page, just under the logo at the end, it says Log Out then you're probably logged in.
Thanks, I'm Good To Go Then
#441 posted by HeadThump on 2004/10/07 19:51:08
Hmm
#442 posted by DaZ on 2004/10/08 18:46:26
maybe have no approval of new threads, but give power to remove threads to the mods, maybe if a thread has not been deleted after 24 hours if cannot be deleted. This would let mods & the users decide a threads fate relatively quickly.
#443 posted by - on 2004/10/08 21:00:16
deletion is bad, and if people start talking on the thread, it's not easy to move it without losing the posts.
Is It Possible To...
#444 posted by Jago on 2004/10/22 11:05:48
...get an "edit post" button/link?
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