Woah ijed you're insane, axing Shamblers on skill 3. :D
Great demos y'all. 

Easier than fiends, depending how much space you've got. 

but the starting area of scampie's map a bit laggish?
i haven't seen a lags from any quake map for a long time 

 

Thank you guys! That was awesome!

I really appreciate what you did in this pack.
And IMO this is far better than any speedmap pack in terms of style and direction. You can compare original and derivatives and see each mapper's vision.

Of course there are leaders and outsiders but most important thing to me is a feel of bringing memories back seeing these reinterpretations of known material. 

I played the first couple of maps last night, and I think that so far they've been great.

Digs' map was very polished, although I found the GK door INCREDIBLY hard to find because I had forgotten about the little tiny arrow above some crates earlier in the level. Because of this I ended up walking around for what seemed like an eternity looking for something similar to the SK door, but with a GK mark on it. BUT IT WASN'T THERE. Eventually I noclipped and figured out where I had made an error. Would have been incredible if not for that. The layout was otherwise very nice and it great visuals.

Oh, and I died a bunch of times. Half because I seem to be very twitchy now and ended up spinning around and getting stuck on details or slashed by knights in cramped areas, and later on because I was low on ammo and trying to use the axe (and failing at it).

Arrrcee's map was OK, though over very quickly. I think I played it and began to think my Quake skills are still there even though I haven't played in a while, and so went into Digs' map thinking it would be a walkover :/

Guess I'll go play the others now :) 

doomer - ionous

Doomer's map was gigantic and very easy, but fun. It was easy because there was so much space almost all the time, with the exception of a couple of ledges with knights on.

Ericw's map was pretty sweet looking, and had a couple of nice combat setups, and some scary spawn encounters, but was over very quickly. I completely fucked up the end and died, but I had fun :)

Fifth Element's map was fairly challenging and tense, with some good combats and well placed enemies. I nearly died a bunch of times, finally kicking the bucket at the end when I couldn't figure out how to escape the quad area until it was too late and I got scragged.

Ionous' map is my favourite so far. The gameplay is not especially challenging, but the atmosphere was excellent - especially at the start where you don't have many supplies. I had an extremely tense encounter with a spawn, which I knew had to be dealt with using my last handful of shells or I wouldn't be able to pass it. Taking those shots was nerve wracking! The underwater combats were sometimes a bit weird, but it was cool to see something a bit different. The end shambler was kind of useless though, since I just got out of the water and killed it from above :)

I'll play the other maps later. Kinda Quaked out right now. 

some awesome maps!

I just cleared scampie's map and it was amazing. Maybe scampie's best map? Lots of well placed enemies (vores and spawn were EVIL!), great layout, and some very fun combats with death from all angles and it looked great to boot. Dismal Oubliette ending was also quite well done.

Rickyt23's map was very large, with lots of open areas to fight in. I liked the end, and thankfully there were a few cubby holes to hide in to avoid getting bashed by the shamblers. Vores were pretty evil here too.

otp's map was kinda weird, with the fog and the weird penis texture all over the place, but it had a couple of fun moments. Wa generally very easy and I didn't feel the flat lighting and thick fog really worked that great visually.

Mechtech's was super short, but had some cool looking architecture. Gameplay was a bit weak though. The fiends were kind of fun to fight.

Guess I'll play the last two after I do the laundry. 

I haven't played Quake for years so thought I would have a nostalgia trip running through this pack. But what were you guys on... ?

http://imgur.com/xrRGPwT

What did you put in your so-called 'jam', 'cause I'll have some of that.

Anyway, what's my problem here - notice the HUD colours are all OK. 

Try r_drawflat 0? 

Skacky's map was insanely good. I was very impressed by how much gameplay he managed to fit into it and the size and polish achieved in the two week deadline. There were a few ineffectively placed ogres, but mostly the monster placement, item balance etc. was about perfect. Definitely my favourite of the pack.

Sock delivered another very well polished fun map in this pack. There were lots of ogres on small stairs, which I love, because you can run under their grenades as they fire and shoot them with the dbs. The end was a bit anti-climactic and felt like he ran out of time, but it was still a great map.

demos: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/demos/func_mapjam1_demos_than.zip 

Thanks, that put it right. And I found out what put it wrong: I had the sound switched off when I started the map and when I switched it on during play using the touch-switch on the laptop, it went psychedelic. It doesn't matter why, I wont do it again.

Played a couple of the maps and died in various ways - fell off a walkway, got trapped by DK, ran into a vore ball that I didn't until I died. "Oh what fun we had, but did it really turn out bad..." 

than: so you did finish my map? (you died horribly in the demo you sent)

I was so scared for you when you fell down into the sewer with the vores! But then you were doing fine until you got freaked out by the spawn :D 

I was replaying Skacky's map and found a nice box full of Cracker-Jack's :

http://fsgregs.startlogic.com/Public_Files/Cham/Pictures/box.jpg

I droped in-there just to say "Hello!", and then it was a bloody Rave party, Texan style !

Hehehee !


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_Jack 

Yeah, I finished it, I just don't know how to record a continuous demo after dying. That spawn section was hell because it was so dark (at least on this comp) and I just knew that I was going to get pwned by it if I stuck around. I tried to run but ended up dying anyway.

In most of the maps I just ran away from spawn when I could hear but not see them. Once they start jumping around they become extremely dangerous, but very prone to infighting so I tend to just run away and wait until the mayhem calms down a bit. 

are some of these maps a bit slow for anyone else? Quite a few like ricky's, scampie's, skacky's and especially ericw's. 

I noticed one of them chugging a bit yeah. Don't remember which now. 

about half chug for me. 

Those maps can be high on the polygon count if you have an old-ish machine running Quake. I took a look at a few with r_speeds 1 on.

wpoly = world polygon: all the static geometry of the level
epoly = entity polygon: any dynamic actor's polygons, so this includes doors, lifts, monsters, and so on.

sock and skacky's maps can get to around 4k wploys and around 10k epolys in some spots. Mine tends to cap out at 2k wpolys and 9k epolys in a couple areas. These numbers are just because the maps are large, open, and detailed with curved surfaces. I know I tried to make an effort to visblock areas reasonably well, which is the only reason my numbers don't get too insane.

Ericw's start area is roughly 5k wpolys, most from those girders which eat a ton of polygons. Looking in r_showtris 1, it seems that vis made the entire height of the girders visible despite the lower polygons clearly being behind a solid floor... possibly this is because they are a single func_detail so they are thought to be in the same leaf as the higher parts? Or just vis being lazy with creating vertical PVS leafs as was suggested a few weeks back in mapping help. This might be something to investigate, vis wasn't doing much favors for this map.

Ricky's map just isn't vis'd, so it hits 5k wpolys and 20k epolys because the entire map is rendered much of the time.

These numbers would have once seemed insane to Quake, I remember when guidelines for DM maps would try to stick to no more than 600 wpolys. These days, people have stopped caring as much since most graphics cards are quite optimized at chewing through large amounts of polys... but I'm sure there's a large range of machines out there running Quake and these are likely pushing those a bit. 

a couple areas and their rough r_speeds

e1m1 - bottom of first elevator looking across bridge : 350 wpoly 1200 epoly

ikspq4 - main room : 750 wpoly 4250 epoly

februus - end arena : 1350 wpoly 1050 epoly

apsp2 - looking down watery shaft : 1300 wpoly 2500 epoly

scampsp1 - V shaped room : 1050 wpoly 2650 epoly

zendar - start, looking up at castle : 3000 wpoly 2450 epoly 

Yeah, vis didn't do much for my map. The girder towers are divided into func_detail chunks 3 cubes high.

I haven't played all the maps yet, I stopped when I had chugging / stuttering on ionous's caused by dynamic lights, which I'd never noticed on my setup before (quakespasm, macbook w/ nvidia graphics). I sent in a patch to quakespasm with MH's dynamic light fix, that fixes this particular instance of chugging for me, so hopefully that will make it in to the next QS release.

So if you're running Quakespasm and have any chugging, and if "r_dynamic 0" fixes it, try Fitz Mark V. 

saint - looking across main room : 6000 wpoly 1500 epoly 

any Tronyn map - average 25000 wpoly 

thanks for the info but I really havent had these sorts of issues with chugging before, running on an i7-3770 with 16gb ram and a gtx 680. Hardly state of the art but hardly slow. 

fitz 0.85.

And yes every now and then in a tronyn map there is slowdown, but only every now and then.