What Kinn Said
#410 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/05 16:26:26
You should start by only allowing registered users to post new threads...
That seems like a better solution to me.
P.S. And let me add my voice to the many who want the Reset button moved or removed.
Yeah,
#411 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 00:17:43
actually, if i had thought of that, i would have suggested allowing only reg'd users to post as well. so, there's a vote for that then.
ditto on the reset button.
Well, The Reset Button Thing Is Easy Enough...
#412 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 06:10:33
so voila! Other stuff may come later. But I wouldn't mind more opinions on that other stuff.
One thing i'm worried about with the registered user thing is that i don't want people registering bogus accounts just to post one stupid thread... that would just result in yet another table (the user table) containing garbage data.
Hmm, unless i made it so that you needed to wait some time (two weeks? a month?) after joining before you could create threads. Most random jerks passing through wouldn't care enough to wait around. Anyway, discuss please.
Well
#413 posted by Kinn on 2004/10/06 07:28:31
One thing i'm worried about with the registered user thing is that i don't want people registering bogus accounts just to post one stupid thread... that would just result in yet another table (the user table) containing garbage data.
Not a problem if you ban/delete troll accounts
Kinn
#414 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 08:31:42
That's just more work for poor metlslime, though. :(
And I'd rather not give that responsibility to the mods.
#415 posted by - on 2004/10/06 08:33:40
moderator approval is cool, but with that we'd need a specific bit in the faq or at the top of 'create new thread' that explains the purpose of threads and what guidelines mods will use for deciding yay or nay.
I watch the site religeously, so threads wouldn't normally wait TOO long for approval.
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#416 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 08:53:04
well, yes, banning dudes is work, but a forum comes with a bit of work, that's a given...
i think the waiting time after registering is a good idea, but too long a delay will probably stop good people from registering as well. maybe like 24 or 48 hours, 2 weeks is excessive. you'd register then forget about this place. :P
#417 posted by - on 2004/10/06 11:26:13
banning and such should be handled completely by metlslime and done by an ip ban for any real abusers of the forum, not of whom we've seen here before.
delayed thread creation after registering doesn't help much when registered users make bad threads (see both food threads as a good example).
Yes
#418 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 11:28:31
banning and such should be handled completely by metlslime
Exactly.
Thanks For The Removal Of The Reset Button, Btw...
#419 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 13:34:12
[nt]
Notes:
#420 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 14:36:51
the two week delay would only be for threads, not posts. And I still think anonymous posting is worth keeping.
Re: deleting accounts -- this creates orphaned threads/posts which is a data integrity problem. But more importantly, it encourages people to just register another account. Banning by IP is better.
IP Bans Then.
#421 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 16:50:34
because it's easy to register again.
Do We Really Need IP Bans?
#422 posted by pushplay on 2004/10/06 17:14:50
Has anything really happened that a couple of warnings to fuck off hasn't yet solved?
No,
#423 posted by necros on 2004/10/06 17:36:02
but what's wrong with having the capability?
even if you never turned your stereo up past 1/4 volume, wouldn't you rather have some pretty decent and powerful speakers so that that one day, where you throw a party, you can crank it up?
#424 posted by - on 2004/10/06 18:07:41
IP bans for actual rogue abusers would be a metlslime thing and really aren't something that needs to be 'implented' as a simple script for blocking IPs to the /board/ directory of celephias.net is easily dropped into place.
I like the idea of approved threads best, so all things could be regulated let that, while still allowing everyone to make a new thread. With this, I'd also hope for the funtionality to create new threads from any old post, so that if one mod decides a thread isn't good but everyone disagrees, you could easily 'upgrade it'. And things like the food thread won't happen where the idea for the thread is an idea by many, and we end up with multiples.
Things Should Be Regulated Automatically
#425 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 19:21:02
and not dependant on the moderators.
RPG:
#426 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 19:27:42
so, i write an algorithm that can tell when someone should be banned, whether a thread is worthy of being news, etc?
Precisely
#427 posted by R.P.G. on 2004/10/06 19:49:27
But I understand that your time is limited due to your pursuit of glasses-wearing Asian babes, so I would settle just for requiring a timelimit of 24 hours before allowing a new user to post threads.
I'm betting that most people who want to make a useful new thread have probably been visiting the forum for a while, and thus would not mind waiting 24 hours to start a thread. They'll be coming back to check on the forum anyway, so waiting a day will not cause them to forget about the topic.
#428 posted by - on 2004/10/06 20:03:32
so, what you're saying is we should become further enthralled in our cause to drive away newbies by enforcing the old boy's club?
Approving Threads
#429 posted by Jago on 2004/10/06 20:13:58
I think it would be a good idea to make "unupproved threads" visible to the general public in some separate, but easily visible link on the menu. After the thread gets a number (say 5) of approvements from forum posters, it gets added to the main thread list.
#430 posted by - on 2004/10/06 21:01:05
you mean, once the poster creates 5 dummie accounts and approves his own thread. or a coder posting his new mod project pimp finds 5 friends to come vote. or 5 of our own anarchist idiots vote yes.
i don't like the idea, but the idea of unapproved threads being visible to all sounds good to me.
Unapproved Threads
#431 posted by pushplay on 2004/10/06 22:29:46
But I'm going to visit all those anyways and I bet most people would. That's just unecessary clicks for me and unecessary work for mods.
#432 posted by - on 2004/10/06 22:39:22
the point being that the unapproved threads wouldn't have posts allowed, and we'd be able to rid the shit threads easily.
Hmm....
#433 posted by metlslime on 2004/10/06 22:45:12
some interesting ideas.
Metlslime...
#434 posted by - on 2004/10/06 22:51:10
get on irc, I need to speak with you privately about something I think you've been missing in this whole issue.
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