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1. How do you have monsters "teleport in"? Say there is a button and if you press it you want 5 monsters to appear.
I take it I have the monsters sitting in some inaccessible room, but I'm not familiar enough with triggers to know how to make a button do that. 2. Deathmatch starts. How many are needed to make a map support deathmatch? What happens if 8 players try to play a map with only 4 deathmatch starts? 3. Does deathmatch also utilize info_player_start and info_player_coop spots? I would guess the answer is no. 4. Is there a way to cause a message to appear on screen for ALL cooperative players? Like if someone pressed a button that said "the crypt has been opened". Can a single trigger, like setting up a button, trigger both a lift and a door?
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1. I take it I have the monsters sitting in some inaccessible room
Yup. I call them 'spawnboxes'. how to make a button do that give the button a key/value "target" "blah" then give the trigger_teleport "targetname" "blah" where 'blah' is whatever you want. Remember that you should only have one monster teleported to one destination per triggering, otherwise multiple monsters will just telefrag each other, a la the intermission of e1m7. So use a separate trigger around each monster. 2. There's no technical requirement, the number of starts is a tactical gameplay decision for the mapper. What happens if 8 players try to play a map with only 4 deathmatch starts? 4 players will be instantly telefragged. Followed by the other 4, if they don't move their arses off the spawnpoints sharpish :P 3. No, it doesn't use them. 4. Not that I know of, but I haven't ever really tested. 5. Yes, if the lift and door have the same "targetname". Both will be triggered at the same time, when the button is pressed. Take a look at http://www.planetquake.com/worldcraft/index2.shtm for a lot of info and tutorials regarding mapping, entities atc. There are also similar stuff at http://www.gamedesign.net .
4. Is there a way to cause a message to appear on screen for ALL cooperative players? Like if someone pressed a button that said "the crypt has been opened".
Just guessing here, but maybe you could do a trigger_counter with a count of 1 and a "message" of whatever you want. I think the trigger_counter message is broadcast to all. Are the Hipnotic and Rogue development kits still available somewhere? (I have the Zerstorer one)
Google isn't turning up anything. In particular I'm after the force field/particle field QuakeC. look for the custents devkit which has both the hip and rogue code stuffs as well as other things
And it occurs to me how doomed Quake would be if we ever lose ftp.sunet.se (the final mirror).
aguiRe, ever thought of adding Tyrann's "remove_skip.exe" code into txQbsp? I can't see someone using a texture named "skip" texture for anything but for a "removed texture". idgames2 mirrors, but I only know of sunet's planetquake subdir, which actually contains a lot of stuff.
No, I haven't thought of putting that feature into qbsp. yeah, this would be nice. Probably should be off by default and activated by command line.
Tyrann's skip removal tool is pretty hacky -- it doesn't remove the surfaces or marksurfaces from the file, it simply shortens the list of marksurfaces for each node. Or something like that, i can't remember exactly. A more robust version (actually removing the faces from the bsp, not allocating lightmaps for them, etc.) would only really be practical if it was handled during the qbsp stage. I've seen lights that are long rectangles
--- | | | | | | | | | | | | | | --- Are they making a ton of individual lights? What technique are they using? Or is there an easy way to take a brush and make it illuminate? Unless you're using surface lighting, you just need to place one or a few lights. Sometimes I go with one, but sometimes two.
If the texture is one of those 32x128 dimension light textures, i recommend making 4-8 light entities along the length of it. that gives a nice and even illumination. Copy / paste is your friend.
Tyrann said he stopped using his skip program cause it causes visual glitches sometimes, I've been using it quite a bit and haven't come across any problems though...
But yeah, a real skip pass during qbsp would be awesome, one of my maps keeps going a bit over markedsurface engine limit, and being able to skip some stuff could probably help. =D Marius was so nice to post this list on quaddicted.com
The following mirrors are all functioning as of Friday, May 27, 2005: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/idgames2/levels/ http://www.au.horde.org/pub/idgames2/levels/ http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/levels/ http://ftp.se.kde.org/pub/pc/games/idgames2/levels/ http://download.au.kde.org/pub/idgames2/levels/ Planetmirror Mirrors http://curl.planetmirror.com/pub/idgames2/levels/ http://python.planetmirror.com/ftp/idgames2/levels/ http://mrtg.planetmirror.com/pub/idgames2/levels/ http://horde.planetmirror.com/pub/idgames2/levels/ http://public.kde.planetmirror.com/pub/idgames2/levels/ The icky, incomplete mirror over at Absolute Gamer http://www.fileaholic.com/idgames.d/quake/levels/ (All the links points to the /levels dir) http://www.quaddicted.com/content/view/130/2/ I have 31499 marksurfaces in my map already. But I still need to make a large hall for final battle. I need to reduce their number. Any ideas?
I have the same problem with my current project: marksurfaces value is around 35000...o_O...and unfortunatly I was not able to solve it :(... and I have to let it as is....
AFAIK, it's not a problem for FitzQuake engine (either equivalent, or better) to manage this too high value: you would only have choppy visual effect ingame with "old PC". And unfortunatly, WinQuake and standard engine should abort during map load. It seems to be a recurent issue for big maps.. :( Hrimfaxi also has this issue with his last map (tris), and he told me he was able to solve it... We also had interesting discussion about this issue (concerning my map).. so maybe you could contact him directly.. though.. make episodes of normal maps, not huge-ass maps. It's nicer to play that way too!
Well sorry, I haven't seen what you're working on... Is this all because of kinn? Some penis measuring contest? If you exceed the marksurfaces limit of 32k, I'd suggest not to worry too much unless you experience obvious problems (typically map crashes).
There seems to be some kind of margin before real problems appear and there are several big maps released (e.g. Menkalinan) that exceed the limit without having any apparent issues. Inside normal engines, bad things will happen immediately when passing 32k, but it might still not cause any harm.
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