I am will absolutely finish my map on time. :) 

I have simplified my map topology, to fit the deadline, still have few cool things. 

Hey man, how is your gameplay logic coming along? Any problemns, or is everything going smoothly* 

So about 4 people at least I guess..? 

That is what I am doing this very moment. Going through and fixing logic errors. I have 90% of the map done, and just made a pass to fix a bunch of errors. I still need to iron out a few bugs, finish the final room, and then make skill 1 and 0 runs.

How about yourself? 

I spent too much time on "logic" shit :D Now I'm speedruning with last room and enemies. I have only one skill level :P 

This possible biggest slice of my jamming time when to control room's one interesting room and figuring out interesting ways of hiding secrets and making them meaningful for the player find.

I will try to implement a new type of using secrets.. it's called "found silver keys" "access gifts later" or in one specific location. So that ate most of my time "today", but I still have enough time for basic ambushes which I'm more familiar with.. ending part is going to be time consuming in scripting part, because.. you know.. ending is always hard to figure out. 

Just increase the enemy count ; p 

Oh no, not Quoth again! I loathe Quoth stuff, on top of not being very fond of the base theme... For the next map jam, may I suggest an Arcane Dimensions theme? 

 

I've had a dearth of time due to work commitments, but my map will be done, albeit cut to the bone with regards to...well, everything. The seams will be obvious where I stitched things together last-minute. Oh well.

Final tally:
Newhouse
Khreathor
Bloughsburgh
Ionous

Those close to finishing, I'd advise to keep going. There's always the chance a sudden burst of creativity may push your map into completion. One never knows. 

This might sound weird, but I really would like to use sentinel monsters more in the future, but if it's only quoth specific monsters..

At least for me this is gonna be problem especially when wanting to make full length episode with different themes and lots of variety of monsters from zombie_knights to alien like monsters, and maybe even cyborgs..

I even was thinking to use one of the 'Abyss of Pandemonium' monsters, but I'm not sure is that copyrighted product + all of it's content. I assume that you can't use multiple mods for single complete episode, right?

I was trying to find name of this monster, I just watched walkthrough of this non-official quake mission pack, and it just seemed interesting if maybe after updating its old ai and stuff:
http://www.oldpcgaming.net/wp-content/gallery/quake-abyss-of-pandemonium/3.jpg

All I want to say, is maybe it's better to have one really big mod, than thousands of others.. sure I had problems first getting into quoth mod, and I'm not saying that there is anything bad about it.. but in comparison ad seems to be much more complete package to me - and it always would be nice to have everything in one package. Enemies matter so much when making interesting gameplay. 

Coming from someone who first opened a Quake editor last November when AD wasn't released yet, I can say Quoth was THE mod.

The ability to spawn monsters in without the use of extra triggers was a winner alone. New monsters, weapons, more tools to play with...and an expansion to base monsters really opened up some doors.

AD furthers the refinement of mods like Quoth which offers even more tools/additions. Than used Quoth for the jam's inspiration map so that is probably a good reason as to why.

Personally, unless it is a jam or event I will most likely always map using AD just from the additional tools that come with it. 

All what Quoth started I do appreciate so much. But pointing out that life goes on, better tools appear and so on. But for this jam it kind of makes sense to use Quoth, because it was THE mod*

And I love sentinel enemy ; P 

AD still feels like it's in flux. Well, it IS in flux, as new features are being added as we speak. But it also has certain inconsistencies, mostly pertaining to models. A lot of stock models are still in use, and they clash with the new, more polished content. More replacements are to come in the next update, but now I worry about styles clashing instead of (or rather in addition to) quality.

Aside from a few minor things that need fixing, Quoth always felt like a very seamless addition to the original Quake content. The models are about the same quality, and even the sounds are all strangely fitting, despite them being taken from different sources.

It also feels like Quoth has a more pronounced focus on Lovecraftian content, but maybe it's because of the maps released so far. 

Quoth + zombie knight, hogre, minotaur(better skin), spiders/scorpions (I like spiders), bob/jim (rocket/laser), eddie etc.

I'm just wondering because I already use in other map zombiek(zombie knight) mixed with ogres and knights(living). That mixing makes the combat feel a lot more challenging. I love enemies that can add totally different tactics to the gameplay. That's why I basically was asking whether or not sentinel is going to be in 'future updates' in AD too, because sentinels laser projectiles has totally different timing than bob has, and that makes the player actually change tactics which makes gameplay more refreshing. But that is just my opinion.

I don't know whether or not, but are those base type troopers/soldiers which are in AD, originally from Quoth? 

I don't know whether or not, but are those base type troopers/soldiers which are in AD, originally from Quoth?
Many of them are.

Centurion is from Rubicon 2.

eddie
Actually, this one is among the monsters that were present in Quoth, but weren't (and likely won't be) added to AD. 

Are they actually making concept arts for us to see? After that modeling/texturing + everything needed to make new enemies. Just wondering 'cause I care about feel of 'real' Quake as well as you do. And Quake content creators should keep the focus on Lovecraft's content if that creates seamless monsters? 

Would have been perfect for this map! 

Indeed* 

Quake has several themes, Lovecraftian horror is only one of them. I felt that AD has more improvements for the medieval setting, with the techbase setting being a close second, while "otherwordly" creatures were simply borrowed from Quoth (with a few omissions even).

It wasn't a point that was going to prove that Quoth is better or something, I was merely saying that it still has its own identity, even though a lot of its content was borrowed by AD. 

In this case it's a matter of execution of the assets rather than their theme. 

Original quake only had one hit-scan enemy which was grunt*

I'm not saying that I especially like hit-scan enemies, but it sure adds a lot to the gameplay. And that must be one of the reasons why many mappers & even plutonia experiment used in doom "Heavy weapon dude" a lot, because it was really dangerous at close-range. Hit-scan enemies makes the prioritizing harder, because in most cases you have to deal with them first.

Grunt in Quake is just so weak that is barely even treat to player ever, am I right? 

I was referencing doom 2 actually, Heavy weapon dude was one of the new enemies in doom 2. 

Unless you're low on health, or there's a whole bunch of them.