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So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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Spirit 
^__^
Perfect inspiration for the new quaddicted theme! 
 
Nah quakis, I tried to play the first one when it first came out. Didn't like the gameplay much. I found the gameplay in Thief 3 a little frustrating as well, there's just a little too much shadow crawling. It'd be better if you could more successfully take enemies out like you could in Splinter Cell. But I loved the level design and story of T3, which is what made it memorable to me. The older 2 wouldn't look as good, so I wouldn't go back to them now. There needs to be more games in the style of T3, instead of realistic settings all the time. 
 
First two Thief games are probably the most immersive and enjoyable games I've played so far. Such a rich setting with so much background and detail, the non-linear(ish) approach in each mission. Some few years ago when I almost finished up Thief 2, I was getting upset that this will be pretty much it, until I discovered all the fan missions that have been released (and continue to).

As for Thief 3? I absolutely cannot say anything about it (besides clunky movement) since the game crashes too often to get a good session out it, which kinda sucks as I want to actually play through it. 
Steam Sale 
proved good. Also picked up Batman:AA and Far Cry 2. Now need time to play all these, Wich is about 70% complete I think.

As for L4D2, managed to get hack around Low Violence but only for Single Player, not online play :( 
Boondog 
Feels a lot like PC puzzle/platform games from the 90s to me.

http://jayisgames.com/games/boondog/ 
Metlslime 
it sucks 
Nitin 
What's your Steam name OR poke someone to get you into the Func Steam group so we can get some L4D2 games going. 
Negke 
it's nitin77.

I havent played it yet though so total newbie :) 
Name Not Found 
Just play through each campaign in SP, that should be enough to get into it. Then you're basically ready to shoot Shambler in the back or vice versa. 
Nitin 
Is it n_gul-something ;) ?

L4D is frantic. Just get on a server and start playing.

Rules:

Dont shoot eachother. You can vote abusers off.
People dont mind a couple of accidents though....

Stick together. If someone goes off on their own for example, a person should try and keep close to them, 2 by 2 if you see what I mean, but really you are better off as a unit of 4.

Right Mouse Button to push zombies back (when trying to reload for example) is invaluable, and used all of the time. It will also get special infected off of a person sometimes.

Set a Tank special infected on fire where possible.

Conserve health - when you are going to die (get knocked over too many times) the screen will go black and white. This is a good time to use medikits if they are sparse. Even if it means hobbling around slowly for a while. If you know you are gonna get owned by zombies then save the health.

Dont startle the witches unless you know you can kill them. Which you dont. Keep the flashlights off.
If a witch is in a bottleneck area then go past her one at a time. If she startsn to sound more agited then wait for her to calm down before the next person.

I think I added you. Send me an invite for a L4D2 game if I'm online, if im not busy I still play that game, love it! 
Func Steam Group? 
searching for func returns garbage. Link?

Steam name: BetterThanUNIX. 
Negke 
steam name is nitin77, alternatively email is n_gulati at hotmail dot com (which seems to be how ricky found it). 
Ah 
You haven't set up your Steam profile yet, that's why the search didn't give any results. 
I Didn't? 
Thought I did. Looking at it now and there's not much to set up, unless I'm missing something. 
No, Nitin 
 
Nehrim 
After 30 hours of playing, a few comments:
Like the others said, this is really impressive. The world is huge, the design excellent and very detailed, the voice acting superb. The fact they hired professional voice actors already accounts for a lot. I can understand how (if) you keep from playing it through as it must be annoying to play such a game with subtitles only. I haven't played any Oblivion mods before, but I did play many Gothic1/2 mods - which were good, sometimes great, but none of them had such a high level of quality as Nehrim.

I like how they beefed up some of Oblivion's core systems, like for example how you now get Learn points when leveling up (or reading certain skill books) and can use them to advance your skills at certain teachers, like in Gothic. However, it's very expensive.
There are also plants that grant permanent boni, and spell runes to discover, which teach you powerful spells without requiring a teacher (and gold).

A problem, or at least a little downside, is that there seem to be only few quests in relation to the huge size of the world. In Oblivion, you can enter a new village or town and be sure to find at least one side quest. In Nehrim, there are good side quests too, but it seems to focus more on the (apparently long) main quest. So often you pass through settlements which are nice to look at, but don't offer any interaction apart from merchants. And, related to that and the size of the map, you often have to travel enormous distances from the start of your quest to the destination and back. It doesn't help that quick travel is disabled - though I agree it makes sense. You can teleport to certain locations of you find someone who can teach you the corresponding spell, but even then it still requires a teleportation crystal (which you can buy or find), so you can't teleport at your leasure unless you're rich and well-stocked.
I'm not sure if the fact that I chose to play with a Half-Aetherna affects the gameplay in this sense and results in a reduced number of side quest offerings - as that race is disliked or despised by many humans and they often don't want to talk to me. Can any of you other verify? I assume, however, this is not the case and they would just give another reply to other races while still not offering any more interaction. In Oblivion, regular NPCs could at least be talked to for generic information.

While most of the environments are impressive, more individual and unique than in Oblivion with its many duplicate levels, some feel too stretched-out. For instance, the underground journey to the dwarven city, as cool as it was, became tedious after a while. Not because there were so many enemies, but because they were fairly strong and the way was so long.

As a result of this, huge size vs. seemingly low number of side quests, it feels like I'm beginning to lose interest (already started to noclip around), so I'm going to focus on the main quest now. 
 
And yes, all the additional details and more open outside environments have a huge impact on the performance, indeed. The Oblivion engine never scaled well, but in Nehrim it's sometimes extreme. I had to switch back to XP as on Win7 some areas just slowed the game down to a crawl (on high settings anyway). So it might not be much fun if your machine specs are only just above Oblivion's standard requirements. 
Nehrim 
Yeah I've been playing it too (same, around 30 hours in), and I agree with most of what you say.

All in all it's a great mod, I highly recommend it for fans of Elder Scrolls and Gothic games, and also, don't be put off by the very boring, linear and slow introduction, once you're out in the world you can really go wherever you want.
I hated the the lack of fast travel at first, but it does make sense, and I'm rich now, so cash to buy teleport crystals is no longer a problem (the easiest way to become rich, like in Oblivion, is to make lots of potions, and sell them).

Yeah it does feel strange to enter a village, and no one will have some silly side-quest for you to do, that's a bit disappointing.
But the dungeons are diverse enough that just exploring them for loot is nice, better than in Oblivion where everything feels the same. 
Finished Witcher 
really liked this, cant wait for Witcher 2.

I hope the sequel has a bit more monster variety though. Witch 1 had plenty but more big cool creatures are needed :)

Also played Modern Warfare 1 for about 2 sittings, maybe 6 hours in total. I think I'm upto the last level, ridiculously short game although its probably because its exteremely polished. But FFS, the first 3 levels or so ar every annoying considering you cant do anything but what you're meant to do and only in one way. Thankfully, once they drop you in more normal levels, you have freedom to roam and kill your enemies as you please, not some scripted one way bullshit. 
Arcania 
supposed to be gothic4? how did i miss that? :S

is that any good? maybe a little more stable and efficient than gothic3? 
Not As Good As G3 
Bal and I posted comments about it here. 
Arcania... 
Is skipable really, get Risen instead if you want more Gothic in my opinion (or play Nehrim :). 
Nehrim 
i'm clearly the exception here because after playing nehrim for a few hours, i went back and played oblivion for about 2 or 3 weeks. :P :P

but thanks for the tip re: risen. :) 
2 Years Of Games To Catch Up On...mostly 
So I splashed out on a new pc for Christmas and am buying a bunch of games that would not run well on my old rig at all, I just wanted to check in with your guys that I'm not missing anything awesome!

Just Cause 2
Mass effect 2
Dragon Age : origins
Dead Space
Star craft 2
Assassins Creed
Modern Warfare 2

That's what I've played so far, ones I'm not too sure about:

Bad Company 2
Fallout 3 / Vegas
Assassins Creed 2
Witcher

Anything I missed that needs to be checked out? I'm not too into strategy or racing games! 
 
Bad Company 2 was like a Modern Warfare game - some of the levels were huge and breath taking though. Really over the top action/story, etc

Fo3/Vegas are good if you like ugly open world RPGs with a lot of exploration and content.

AC2 is like AC1 with a bit more stuff from what I understand - I hated AC1 so I skipped it other than what I've heard from people at work.

Witcher I heard was good, weird combat though. 
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