Support Features Please
#365 posted by Bluntz on 2012/07/02 15:38:56
Baker has a new Fitz build and I am hoping to get some of the improvements added for my Linux client.
"Oh yeah, remember your post about talk macros or view interpolations (shaky cam) ... ask for them to add SUPPORTS_TALK_MACROS, SUPPORTS_LEGIT_PING_SCOREBOARD, SUPPORTS_VIEW_ANGLES_INTERPOLATION."
I have had some help with the LOC file support now working.I hope there are more improvements you can use from baker's update though.
#366 posted by Spirit on 2012/07/02 16:50:15
step 1: share your own changes/work back to the community.
I never saw SUPPORTS_ flags before, is that new? where does that come from?
those examples look terribly named to my "alphabetical order should equal logical grouping" mind.
Spirit:
#367 posted by metlslime on 2012/07/02 18:47:53
That's just something baker added in the fitzquake mk. 5 source code to make his changes easier to find.
#368 posted by negke on 2012/07/05 10:04:55
What is this Bad "cue " chuck length (#) warning and why does it appear every time a map is loaded?
Bad "cue " Chuck Length
#369 posted by szo on 2012/07/05 10:33:54
When a *.wav file is parsed, it looks for the "cue " chunk, if it finds it then it progresses to find a loopstart position. A bad cue chunk in the file is a chunk that reports its size as negative or going past the whole size of the *.wav file. Without such checks I added there, the engine may very well segfault (i.e. crash, which was the case with, IIRC, arwop mod or something.)
The print is done only in developer mode so it doesn't appear in usual game play.
PF_VarString: Overflow
#370 posted by sock on 2012/07/16 21:47:36
Is there anyway to override the centerprint string truncation or suppress the PF_VarString: overflow console message?
Well
#371 posted by Preach on 2012/07/16 23:37:24
Even if there was it would be a bad idea to do it, because then your mod will potentially crash other engines by overflowing the buffer.
Fitz Compatibility
#372 posted by sock on 2012/07/16 23:43:41
This works fine with the original Fitz0.85 engine and the new mark V engine. I know a few people who want to use Quakespasm instead of Fitz, so I am asking if this problem could be tweaked via a console command. I don't expect the default to change, I just want the option to override the (new) default used in this engine so I can offer my mod to a wider audience.
PF_VarString: Overflow
#373 posted by mh on 2012/07/17 03:05:56
This is actually a bug fix kicking in. The buffer sizes for these functions could probably be increased but then you get into a war of attrition that I'm sure nobody wants.
String Overflow
#374 posted by sock on 2012/07/17 03:45:46
I do think this situation is sad because without a way to fix this string overflow issue (still don't understand why a startup command line can't be added to allow longer strings) my mod simply won't work with Quakespasm.
I am sure someone is going to say 'Why don't you change your mod?" well, I use the centerprint function as a method for telling my background story and I don't want to delete it after all the effort I have put into creating it.
Sock:
#375 posted by metlslime on 2012/07/17 04:23:45
is it possible to break the text into smaller chunks so players see a bit of it at a time?
I don't know what you're planning but that might work -- player walks along, sees some text, walks farther, hits another trigger that displays the next bit of text, etc. Or, it can all be triggered without the player moving, just on a delay for each section.
If none of those ideas work, you might be able to hijack the "end of episode" text mode, like maybe have a bsp that gives the player a rune and then ends immediately, causing the text to appear, then when the player hits enter it goes to your "real" bsp which has all the gameplay.
#376 posted by mh on 2012/07/17 12:52:55
The big problem with extending the string buffer size for PF_VarString is that it has knock-on effects in so many other places. You know the "you got 10 shells" message - that comes from PF_VarString. As does "this hall selects hard skill", "player exited the level" and so many other things.
So if you extend the PF_VarString buffer then you've got to go extend every other buffer that relies on it - including the network message buffers as PF_VarString result go over the network too. And they're restricted to 1400 bytes or you'll get packet fragmentation. Maybe for the purposes of your mod you don't particularly care about MP, but be certain that the QS guys do, and they're aiming for the general case.
So ask yourself: "is my mod really that awesome that I'm willing to break the rest of Quake for it?"
Sock:
#377 posted by szo on 2012/07/17 12:55:15
As mentioned in msg #362, PF_VarString() buffer has been increased from 256 to 384 in the svn (i.e. the development version.) If even that much isn't enough for you then, well, what you're doing is utterly broken.
Szo:
#378 posted by sock on 2012/07/17 16:51:59
Thanks :) Is there anyway to suppress the constant warning message to developer only? I am assuming the engine is truncating the string so does it need to be a constant warning message?
Sock:
#379 posted by szo on 2012/07/17 17:00:26
The message is reminding that the content is misbehaving, so I guess it should be always on for truncation, but *maybe* we change the "exceeds standard limit of 255" warning (where there is no truncation yet) to developer mode.
Szo:
#380 posted by sock on 2012/07/17 17:15:47
I don't mind if the string is truncated, I understand you want limits on the engine, but the console just constantly fills up with the same message over and over. Can the engine just display the message once or just produce a warning for developer mode and truncate the string?
Quakespasm Grappling Hook Mod
#381 posted by egre on 2012/07/22 04:50:24
I found a couple of grappling hook mods, and tried them out, and they don't work. It doesn't crash the executable, but it doesn't throw any errors, either. As a matter of fact, there is no information I could provide to you guys regarding. Anybody have any clue how to get a grap mod working?
@egre
#382 posted by Baker on 2012/07/22 05:22:51
If you want to help the Quakespasm guys, provide a direct link to a download of a mod that doesn't work with Quakespasm.
They don't know what mod doesn't work. But you do. Save the developers time by providing complete information.
Egre:
#383 posted by ericw on 2012/07/22 05:58:40
I just tried: http://www.quaddicted.com/files/idgames2/quakec/weapons/grap109b.zip
and it seems to work fine. Haha, brings back memories of trying this in '97 or so.
Put the pak0.pak in quake/grap109b, launch with "-game grap109b", and once in-game, press "1" (i.e. select your axe) twice to activate it.
@ericw RE: Quakespasm Grappling Hook Mod
#384 posted by egre on 2012/07/23 00:50:00
I've been looking for the grap109b mod for some years now. It was one of my favorites and I couldn't remember the name of it. The mod works perfectly. Thanks for the link.
NAT Issue On 0.85.7 Under Debian Squeeze
#385 posted by egre on 2012/07/23 11:57:39
I am having troubles with NAT and IP binding. I have tried to get quakespasm to bind to a specific IP address and it still shows as bound to 0.0.0.0. The machine I have it running on as a dedicated is also my gateway, so it has multiple addresses and adapters. I really would like it to bind to my internal IP address, then I can port forward from the public IP to the internal. Is there a fix for this? Is this possible with the code as it exists right now?
Here is command line:
quakespasm -ip 192.168.x.x -dedicated 16 -game grappling +exec xxxxxxxx.cfg
RE: NAT Issue On 0.85.7 Under Debian Squeeze
#386 posted by egre on 2012/07/23 12:15:15
Here's the client log output
http://pastebin.com/uSy5r5cb
Port 26000 UDP is assigned by me.
Port 60982 UDP is randomly assigned each time the program executes.
I see nothing in the documentation regarding a second UDP port being configured or configurable. If someone could clue me in, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks in advance.
RE: NAT Issue On 0.85.7 Under Debian Squeeze
#387 posted by egre on 2012/07/23 13:05:02
Here's some more on the UDP port assigns:
http://pastebin.com/sr3LH8Qu
I get where the 26000 is assigned, but why the other port number? Why is it random each time?
OpenBSD
#388 posted by LeopolD on 2012/07/23 18:58:12
Just compiled it on OpenBSD, runs fine, awesome.
However the Makefile failed at detecting the os, had to set it to OpenBSD by hand, after that everything was good:)
#389 posted by AAS on 2012/08/04 07:38:00
Any thoughts about crashing on OS X 10.8?
Crash log: http://pastebin.com/wz1M1Mcb
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