What command should we enter at the start process to use the DMSP mod and Sock's mod at the same time ?

I would like to add some frenetic action mess on this map, with more monsters to hug and love. 

@Skacky, thanks for the demo, a pleasure as always seeing you destroying a nightmare selection of monsters. :)

@mfx, it was cool to see you try the puzzle side of the map first. It feels like you play with a keyboard! crazy! :)

@Barnak, you can just drop the map file in your dmsp directory, the map works fine with a vanilla quake setup. I included a pak file because it has a skybox and I wanted to make sure people setup wateralpha. Why no one has implemented a worldspawn key for wateralpha in modern quake clients is crazy. 

Ok, it's working, thanks. But the results are weird at best. Many monsters are spawning at some unattainable or unreliable spots.

And I'm unable to reproduce the no_floor issue with Scampie's map.
My issue was strange : it never occured to me before. 

How about a new Speedmapping by June 22 ? 

Play the current one first. 

Proposals for theme:
- Colorblind. Can be very crazy.

- Remake of the first map you ever did. Tronyn proposed this at Quaddicted months ago and i think can be interesting.

- DoE and ring of invisibility. A bit of a clone of sm169's theme, but it is also the two things that have been used at mapping the least. 

I suggest the theme: illusions 

Doom 

If that is the theme i have one already, that did 14 years ago, it is a DM one. Is this what you were thinking when you say illusions? 

Haha. Not necessarily imply func_illusionary for theme "illusion". We could show more imagination than just use this entity. 

Infighting 

Speedmaps, not turtlemaps. 

What's speedmap? 100 minutes? It's drearily 

That would be hard and challenging. Apart from some examples (sm175) where there are some turtlemaps, most are in the middle, neither 100 minutes map or a full week map. For example mine took two days (16 hours the first (8 spent on the damn caves and surrounding the valley terrain brushes) and 6-8 for the second). 

I often took longer than two hours myself, but always did the map in a single session. If anything, this should be the compromise. 

These more sophisticated maps would be better off as a small-scale community project rather than a speedmap pack. Although it might as well be a case of motivation and expectation. A different premise - doing a bigger "speedmap" feels like less pressure than a small "normal" map even if both would be pretty much the same. 

A community project is something good, but as far as i see, in this community, the things closer to that are chain speedmaps and huge episodes projects (nehahra). Isn't it?

What you were considering as a comunity project? Something like sm175, made into an small episode or just by adding an start and end map, but better organized and with communication between the members to make the maps similar? 

my last speedmap for sm175 was done in a single session. Granted that session was like 8 hours long at least (with food breaks).

100 minutes is crazy, I'm sure I could do it but it would be a pile of crap ;) 

the next theme for the SM is lava! 

When deadline? 

 

Map Jamming has suddenly, but also completely, destroyed the speedmapping tradition which flourished for so many years in this community.
Any 'speedmaps' that might be made will inevitably be so only in name.

That being said I suggest the next speedmap theme be "Honey jam runoff". 

I doubt speedmapping has been killed off by the mapping jam. If anything speedmapping is probably going to be speedier, like it used to be. 

 

"Finish OTP's shitty jam half-entry"