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Yeah 
I meant the ominous as a compliment.

I like the unpredictable rock formations a lot... and that other stuff departs from basic quake too. I hope it works well. 
Bambuz 
i understood that it was a compliment: don't worry... and believe me, it works fine with the sounds :> 
Q4 Tourney Beta "Sunshine" 
Concerns:

1. The lower YA area is pretty much one-way, barring a sorta clumsy drop-down from the top, or an equally clumsy jump-and-pray to the jumppad from over RG or at +50. There's not really a place to sit and lurk for your opponent that's all that safe down there, so I don't know if it's really a problem.

2. RA<-->MH seems kinda fast, but anywhere to anywhere in the map is pretty fast, so they're probably final. On the other hand, I've moved the YAs around about four times now...

Still To-Do: Sounds, changing out the current bloody fluid for something custom that's a bit more energy/radioactive/something, more minor detailing, a bit more breaking up of huge expanses of concrete, a couple more windows here and there. Detail light settings. More bot clipping. A fair amount of decals.

Custom textures from Evil Lair and sky from Hipshot. Sabot file included (v10).

Screenies:
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss1.jpg
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss2.jpg
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss3.jpg

Downloads:
Fileplanet: http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetquake/pjw/mapstorage/pjw4tourney1_beta1.zip
Non-fp mirror, courtesy of Scourge: http://www.jwivie.com/q3wmaps/pjw/pjw4tourney1_beta1.zip 
Is That A Remake 
looks very similar to one of your q3 dm's, pjw3dm5 ? 
Nope 
That map is gigantic compared with this one, and the layout is completely different, but I do like that concrete and metal look. 
 
very PJW-ish indeed
I almost though its q3 
Almost There... 
...we are just bundling all the files together for the complete mission beta testing, and neg!ke has taken the time to set up a little profile over at ModDB. It has new shots of the levels (taken by him) that are far better than the rather spotty ones I posted not long ago.

http://mods.moddb.com/8904/travail/ 
 
i want to map like this... :\ i suck to hard... 
Looks Like Something Special 
 
All Look Good 
map 3 looks the best IMHO. 
Gallery Looks Sweet 
Nuff said. 
I Refuse To Look At The Shots 
I'm hoping that when I play the pak I will be so shocked from awe that I will transcend reality and live forever in the land of milk and polies.

If I don't, I'm going to demand my money back and sue for compensatory damages. 
Beer And HuGs For RPG... 
...lol, I so needed one of those just now.

PS: We'll gladly give your money back, but fight to the death for one cent more! 
Sunshine Beta 2 
Finally stopped playing Stalker long enough to get this updated with various tweaks, changes, and bits of fixage. Added a new MH area to get it farther from RA. This is feeling pretty solid and is almost certainly the final beta, barring some major revelation.

The pk4 also includes a botfile for TinMan's Sabot v. 10 (extract to Quake4\sabot\maps\mp).

Screenies:
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss1.jpg
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss2.jpg
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss3.jpg
http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1ss4.jpg
Bonus editor shot, if anyone cares: http://pjw.planetquake.gamespy.com/screenshots/pjw4tourney1editor.jpg

Download (map is ~13 meg):
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/planetquake/pjw/mapstorage/pjw4tourney1_beta2.zip

Non-FP mirror, courtesy of Scourge:
http://www.jwivie.com/q3wmaps/pjw/pjw4tourney1_beta2.zip 
Too Late To Submit For Travail? 
I would like to put in a DM map for travail, I have the layout in my head, but I was just wondering whether or not its too late or still feasible to get anything submitted that isn't SP? 
RE: Travail Shots 
Pics look excellent btw. 
Voodoo... 
...thank you for your kind offer.

As it stands, our three coders are just about finished pulling our progs together. We could say "go for it" but there's a good chance the mission will be ready to go before you can complete. Also, the DM maps that are included are there for specific reasons:

- qtdm1 answers the question "How much must one twist a new SP map (qtfin1) to make it playable in DM?"

- qtdm2_duel and qtdm2_ffa are natural extensions of brushwork stolen for use in qte2m2

- qtdm3 is an exercise in reskinning "qte1 style" (as well as some route expansion).

So, maybe we should look you up for the next project. 
Ogre 
Here's a shot from a work in progress, based of course on metlslime's design.

http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/~ajd70/fitz0001.jpg

The animations are barely started, and I'm not happy with the legs yet. Also this is a 'clean' version aside from the chainsaw, no blood splatters yet. One of the reasons for this is the skin is mirrored at the moment, and Rorschach style symmetric blots of blood might look quite odd. The skin has been designed so that the seams of the torso and head lie along the left edge of the skin. So if there's no way to make the ogre work as it is, then it can be mirrored and the left and right sides will line up exactly. It seems a bit odd to double the dimension of the skin just to accomodate the blood splatters, but never mind.

Criticisms are welcomed, hopefully with them it can be made into a faithful substitute model. 
Preach 
Sorry to say that his face looks too "flat" IMHO... Maybe it is due to the shot angle... I don't know...
Anyway, it looks quite promising.. Keep it up ! 
Ogre 
That looks nice! The head is too human though in my opinion. The Quake ogre has almost no neck so the head is more near the body. At least that's how I think it looks.
I love the muscles! 
Spirit Is Right... 
Ogres have no necks, but Fiends do have eyes ;-) 
Gremlins Have Shotguns! 
the model looks quiet symetric while the original looks rather crippled.
For texturing I must say it suits good, knowing how hard it is to fit them.

But I would make it more damaged, somehowe a more reacktive attitude. 
Suggestions 
you might want to add more shape to the main model. At the moment he still looks really low poly and simple, so there doesn't seem to be much point in changing the ogre for an updated one unless there is a significant improvement in both mesh and skin.

I'd concentrate on his characteristic parts most. Give him stubby legs and no neck with a chunky head and make his funny armour stand out more, then I'd probably do something with the chainsaw to make it look even meaner (than the original id chainsaw, which looks mean :). Try and think what cloud/carmack might have wanted him to look like had they had a bit more headroom. 
I Always Thought 
the ogre wore a blacksmiths apron rather than armour. 
TextFish: 
I also imagined him with an apron sometimes (splattered with blood like a butcher's apron of course.) If there were ever a need for an alternate Ogre skin, that would be a very suitable look for him. 
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