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Map Jam 7 - Back To Base
The time has come once again.
The time to go forth and map, IDbase style. More specifically, Than�s APSP2, a loving ode to water, pipes and plumbers. Map Jamming is about creating maps of any size or detail level over several weeks, using a certain theme and/or texture set.

For this seventh of maps jams, the Quoth mod with be employed. Grab it here:

https://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/quoth/

Any questions or comments, please post to this thread only.

Theme � Back to Base
Deadline � August 11th, 2016
Texture Wad - There are texture wads for this jam that include many theme related textures. It is not required to use these textures in your level, they are provided for inspiration and convenience only! Check this texture repository for more wads : https://www.quaddicted.com/files/wads/

Compile Tools - It is recommended that you use EricW's updated Quake compiler suite as they add much new functionality to lighting and visibility. It even has surface lighting!

Download EricW's tools : http://ericwa.github.io/tyrutils-ericw/

Download worldcraft / Jackhammer fgd for these tools> : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33279452/quake4ericwTools.fgd

Engine:
Quakespasm / Fitzquake. The usual suspects.

Theme reference images:
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/jam7_boilerfeedpump.jpg
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/jam7_coolingtower.jpg
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/jam7_coolingtowerinside.jpg
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/jam7_filtration.jpeg
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/jam7_refinery.jpeg

Download the Map Jam 7 zip:
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/Map%20Jam%207.zip

Please post WIP shots of your maps. There�s nothing like a few constructive words to fuel one�s inspiration.

Lastly, a list of mappers streaming their mapping skills:
http://twitch.tv/ionous (Ionous)
http://twitch.tv/tddaz (Daz)

If you want to be added to the stream list, just post below.
Thanks to Daz making the introduction video (which shall be forthcoming).
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Func_Detail 
Pros: Doesn't block vis
Doesn't add leafs
Doesn't add to vis compile time

Cons: Doesn't block vis
Doesn't seal map
Adds to max visible leafs during play 
Func_Detail Part 2 
Use of these is for the mapper only. When faced with a 4 day compile time even with 8 cores, one tends to want to use them for everything. Treat the vis like minecraft. Any angled brushes get turned into details. 
Rick, Qmaster 
Yes obviously they can't be used to seal the map but the whole thing about not having detail brushes extending (through a structural brush) into the void is a murkier area, and I don't think I've ever seen a clear discussion of whether or not this actually causes issues and why... 
 
Build your entire map inside a 8192x8192x8192 box and make all your other geometry into a func_detail. It's cruise control for awesome. 
 
Just to give an idea how func_detail work, I've provided a few screenshots from my jam5 map with func_detail filtered on and off. The remaining brushes when they're filtered off are worldspawn brushes (save for the odd func_illusionary).

http://i.imgur.com/zhtFg9Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPNjY2M.jpg 
Finally... 
Got it to compile with full vis. Woop...only 11 minutes this time. I found that one particularly egregious 384 brush tetrahedron soup group was not actually a func_detail as it should be. Oops. That wiped out over 1000 leafs and 10mb of final bsp file size. Now the bsp is only 21mb. (ha yes only!) Just need to finish the lighting and enemy placement and a few areas now.

Ugly full brights (need to light):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20160676/quake/engine1/keep20160813204338-00.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20160676/quake/engine1/keep20160813204414-00.jpg

Nicer half lit areas (need to light slightly more):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20160676/quake/engine1/keep20160813204455-00.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20160676/quake/engine1/keep20160813204538-00.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20160676/quake/engine1/keep20160813204655-00.jpg

Yes, sprite based foliage...in a greenhouse...in a cave. 
Qmaster 
Looking really nice, btw how did you managed to make that glass? Could you demonstrated it in a practice, not just logical theory bullshit which doesn't tell me anything.

I have tried that two times now, I always receive annoying z-fighting in the surface. So I need to use glass* texture for brush, is that brush also func_wall or not? What then? Clip brush over it, right? What then, is that all what is really needed? 
 
Could someone demonstrate it to stupid noob like me. 
NewGlass 
There are instructions with the mapjam7 bundle by Than.

But okay:

1) Grab the apsp2 wad from the jam bundle
2) Create a brush for your glass (Simple square)
3) Set the *glass texture from the wad for the square brush
4) Make it a func_wall
5) add an alpha key with value of 0.35 or 0.50 or however transparent you want your glass to be.

That's your basic glass. If you want colored ones, then you use a different solid color. 
 
So only thing this time was, I didn't remember simply just try to set up those alpha values, even though I made earlier glass using different texture (not *glass), putting func_wall and alpha.. reason why I get carried away, mind have been that I mentioned it here and didn't get reply for that and then I just forget.

Thank you for making it clear to me again. That time I was also messing around with skip textures which might be the reason why I received that z-fighting. I really don't want to talk about window-test.map, because I'm sure I already get it wrong, but that's just me.

Now that I have making choices in areas how to replace windows, because at time it felt like I will never make them work on time, but now it seems like utterly easy to do - I need to start re-thinking some areas. 
 
might have been* 
Glass Is Interesting 
is the glass supposed to look like this, or does not glass care about about lights at all?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwxYkKdSD855SlBrLVI0bzJLRWs/view?usp=sharing 
Glass Solid Color? 
Is it possible to give func_wall key "_color", and use that the same way as in lights which chooses the color of light.. is there solid_color key even? 
 
This kind of glass is merely a trick. It's made of liquid, essentially. Liquids can't be lit in most engines.

That's why the texture is solid - so you don't see it warp. 
Five Days Left 
The end draws near. Who's in? Who's out? I'll be finishing up the start map in a few days, so I'd like to know how many level entrances I need to make.

Some things to note:

Make sure that your map exits to 'jam7_start'.

Send completed maps over to 'voice DOT of DOT the DOT nephilim AT gmail DOT com' when complete. 
 
I'm not sure I'll make the deadline, to be honest. I took a break when the deadline got extended but I kind of lost my mojo in the process, so to speak. 
I Am In 
Always wanted to be a part of a jam and I will make the deadline.
Definitely a new experience to do this much mapping at this rate with life never slowing down but I will finish!

Count Bloughsburgh in! 
Count Bloughsburgh 
Sounds like a title. 
Absolutely 
If I can't reach all of my goals I simple just lower my goals so I can make at least decent map. For example I have no time to make higher floor at all, even though I will leave the elevator - I just fill with couple boxes and set some dramatic red flickering lights there.

But anyway, I'm in ~ count NewHouse in!

BTW I haven't done start map ever, is it easy to do? I really wouldn't like to spend much time on that. 
Not Very Sure If I Can Finish My Map In Time... 
I haven't done much work on my map this past week. 
#343 
Hmm,

Now I want to go play Castlevania. 
#346 
Remember, only on your break* 
WIP 
Feeling bad I never had anything to show so here is one picture from in game. Lighting is off from the screenshot and ignore the trigger brush that isn't set as a trigger yet!

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/Jam7/mjb_jam7pic.jpg

Brushwork - 90%
Lighting - 80%
Entities - 10%
Logic/Gameplay - 40% 
I Will Have Something Too! 
Maybe it won't be 100% what I wanted, but still I'll have something ;)

Deadline is 18th 23:59? or 0:00? and what time zone? 
Time Zone* 
I live in Finland, and for me it's now monday 1:13AM when is my deadline? At least I want to keep my sleeping rhythm normal. 
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