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Modern Retro Shooters / Quake Spiritual Successors

Posted by Shambler on 2017/11/14 21:26:44

Wonder If A Specific Retro-shooter Thread Is Warranted?
#10166 posted by Shambler [92.29.26.135] on 2017/08/27 11:32:00

It is! Separate thread because there's a lot of these sort of games, the ethos of them is particularly relevant to this board, and it's inhabitants seem to have some good varying opinions on the matter.

Quake as the eptiome as 90s action FPS:

Very direct control and physics
Simple streamlined gameplay
Brutal visceral and gory
Weird fantasy / gothic / industrial theme
Grungy, coherent graphics
Cool map designs / architecture (for the time)
Varied but consistent bestiary
Etc
(many of the above adhered to and greatly enhanced by subsequent custom content)

We all like these aspects, we all like these aspects in other games, we all want to see more of those games, possibly combined with modern graphical styles (Quake Chumpions MAPS might be an example of how far this could go) and maybe very limited modern additions (crouching? an inventory? coherent story? - but nothing that gets in the way of solid action). We perhaps want the next Quake / 90s action FPS spiritual successor...

Modern Retro Shooters:

...and lo, there's a neverending stream of modern retro games many of which are unabashedly marketting themselves as 90s action FPS spiritual successors and particularly highlighting speed, direct control, simple action, limitless violence. Do they have what it takes to hit that mark though??

Strafe
http://store.steampowered.com/app/442780/STRAFE_Millennium_Edition/

Amid Evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo7X7b6pPng

Dusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsu9uDMlIMM

Hellbound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyabhVn1SfQ

Apocryph
http://store.steampowered.com/app/596240/Apocryph_an_oldschool_shooter/

Ion Maiden
https://twitter.com/voidpnt

Neverdead
http://store.steampowered.com/app/681000/NEVRDEAD/

Gorescript
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpZ1Wa0OIoQ

Intrude
https://bagogames.com/intrude-review/

Hermodr
http://store.steampowered.com/app/490360/Hermodr/

Devil Daggers
http://store.steampowered.com/app/422970/Devil_Daggers/

Gibhard
http://www.gibhard.com

Revulsion
http://store.steampowered.com/app/719180/Revulsion/

Witchfire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zqjNkdXT94

PLUS MANY MORE LINKED IN THE THREAD BELOW....

Without wanting to opine too much, there seems to be a general trend of possibly not hitting the mark despite some attempts to do so, with a huge variety in how much potential those attempts show, as well as how close these games are to realising the overall harmonious game quality of a typical best 90s action FPS. I.e. Some games seem to do some aspects right, but don't seem to get all the aspects in balance and appealing together.

Discuss....

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Soooooo......

#315 posted by Kinn on 2019/03/03 12:26:31

Blackroom.

Remember that one? Romero's comeback shooter that failed to meet its kickstarter target but supposedly carried on development.

Radio silence now though....

Too Busy Making Sigil Instead.

#316 posted by Shambler on 2019/03/03 18:12:23

When Is Sigil?

#317 posted by anonymous user on 2019/03/03 22:30:37

Soon™?

#318 posted by Jeremy on 2019/03/07 04:28:19

Ion Maiden and Amid Evil. Period. The rest are meh.

IS THIS THE SAVIOUR OF MODERN RETRO??

#319 posted by Shambler on 2019/03/07 10:56:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgrLN9Wl4xU

Possibly.

Ah Man

#320 posted by starbuck on 2019/03/07 11:23:46

looks great overall. Real nice consistent aesthetic, genuinely feels like a 90s shooter. Some fun environments too, in particular i'm big fan of the trees. Texture work is great. It's like Unreal meets Quake!

If I was going to nitpick, I don't love that zombie enemy, or the box art. I think the latter looks a bit generic and not amazingly executed. Although generic 90s shooter might be the vibe you were going for! I also find the name hard to remember, although i'm aware this is not constructive feedback at this late stage!

#321 posted by Tribal on 2019/03/07 16:04:18

I have no doubt that the level design in Wrath will be awesome! Congratulations, guys! =D

But i'm also excited about the new enemies and the weapons =D

I'm feeling like a teenager again, waiting for a quake missionpack

I'm already in love <3

WRAKE: CREAM OF AIOLI

#322 posted by Kinn on 2019/03/07 21:50:38

IS THIS THE SAVIOUR OF MODERN RETRO??

Most probably.

A) It has actual levels made by actual people who have also made actual levels in the past. For an actual game (quake).

B) Visually, it looks aesthetically harmonious, appealing, and actually like a 90s (ish) shooter! Bugger me.

Those two points already put it in front of the pack, and although I haven't seen enough of the gameplay to pass judgement on that, I certainly haven't seen anything obviously bad about the gameplay.

(PS: weapon sounds are too loud tho)

#323 posted by Tribal on 2019/03/07 22:00:46

Here is 11 minutes of gameplay:

https://www.ign.com/videos/2019/03/07/11-minutes-of-wrath-aeon-of-ruin-gameplay

oh, man... i don't know about the other maps, but this one have that horror/Blood feeling that i love so much <3

And we can dismember zombis (like in Chasm), and kill them with the double-shotgun \o/

Also the weapon's sound design is perfect.

I REALLY hyped for this one

Glad You Guys Are Digging It

#324 posted by killpixel on 2019/03/07 22:04:43

keep in mind: it's all early stuff and the level is a demo of sorts for journalists and such ;)

#325 posted by ruined on 2019/03/07 23:07:20

Is that game using Darkplaces or i'm going crazy?

#326 posted by skacky on 2019/03/07 23:20:24

You're not crazy.

#327 posted by anonymous user on 2019/03/08 00:01:01

Wow, looks fantastic. The models, sound design, & gunplay are so much better than any recent "retro-style" FPS.

#328 posted by ruined on 2019/03/08 00:33:09

Amazing. Never knew Darkplaces could look that good. Is it using https://github.com/hgstratmann/retro_quake1?

#329 posted by anonymous user on 2019/03/08 02:54:41

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/1103765707408338944

#330 posted by anonymous user on 2019/03/08 03:39:38

My four nipples are hard.

Want Now Pls

#331 posted by damage_inc on 2019/03/08 06:16:46

Thank You

#326- Seriously?? ... Is WRATH Using DP And Not QS?

#332 posted by Icaro on 2019/03/08 11:44:23

The very nice news:

• Create your own worlds. WRATH is built from the ground up to be easily moddable. Make your own levels, weapons and characters. From day one, the very tools used to create WRATH will be available for all.

See: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000410/WRATH_Aeon_of_Ruin/

#333 posted by Tribal on 2019/03/08 16:53:27

This one is for @Shambler who doesn't like pixels =D

https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1104032249194926081

Nice. Much Better.

#334 posted by Shambler on 2019/03/08 22:32:13

#328

#335 posted by killpixel on 2019/03/08 23:37:57

nope

3d Fx Goodness !

#336 posted by anonymous user on 2019/03/09 04:22:52

Finally New 3D Fx game For Us 3dfx VooDoo Fans

For Some Reason

#337 posted by spy on 2019/03/09 15:22:08

i didn't like that upcoming project

Oh, For No Reason

#338 posted by spy on 2019/03/09 15:22:55

#339 posted by lpowell on 2019/03/10 02:27:10

Has anyone played Project Warlock yet?

I might buy it and, honestly, Dusk when they go on sale. I'm not gonna say much about Dusk until I actually play it, just that it looks like it could be decent fun.

I'm obviously very excited about Wrath.

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