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Generic 
Thanks for that.

The map name is indeed being passed from BspEditor to BspBuild in this way and I can now read it.

What a very helpful forum this is :-) 
Mike 
I am glad I have finally made a significant contribution to someone around here :) 
Q1 Tools Update 
at http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k . All engines are updated with many features/fixes, Light includes a new skill target check and Tx/TreeQBSP includes new clip hull code by Tyrann, especially beneficial for terrain maps. Please also see readmes for details.

Any comments are welcome. 
Note: 
The clip hull fix in these (also in tyrann's latest compiler) is awesome -- not just for terrain maps, but also for maps where you have lots of miter joints, hollow pipes that bend, crazy spog-like cylinder stuff, etc. 
I Would Just Like To Add 
That using these new compilers, Marcher's #clipnodes dropped from around 32k, to 25k.

I'm tempted to restore all the stuff I had to chop out in the release version o_O 
Marcher SE? 
Funny Really... 
I've been using BspEditor for about 6 or 7 years and have just found out today that holding CTRL and LEFTCLICK allows you to rotate a brush in the map view in real time. And the degree of movement is shown on screen as you move the brush.

Up until now I've been using the RotateBrush button - you know, nudge it 5 degrees have a look; no, not quite right, nudge another 5 degrees have another look; no, still not right...

Obviously therefore, my next map will have plenty of leaning crates, haphazardly abandoned bricks, fallen beams etc :-)

Just thought I'd share... 
Splitting Faces 
if you split a brush in half, but the texture is the same and the sides are still coplanar, will they be split in game or will they be recombined by qbsp?

ie: you're using two sides of a brush for a wall, but one side has trim and the other doesn't, the trim side will obviously be split because the texture will be different, but what about the other side that has the same textures on both new faces? 
Cheers 
My next map will also have leaning crates, haphazardly abandoned bricks, and fallen beams, but unlike Mike it will not be on purpose. :( 
Necros 
In general, they will be rejoined by QBSP if they are coplanar, have the same texture, and have the same texture stretch, shift, and rotation.

However, if you're just making a column in the middle of a room and split it horizontally so it has a cap with trim on one face, then it's quite possible that QBSP would go ahead and split all the other sides of the column, too. 
I Know 
Marcher: The Compiler's Cut 
In Case Anyone Needs Any Further Convincing: 
This is a shot of Marcher's geometry in hull 1 using the original brush expansion logic:

http://img214.exs.cx/img214/4742/oldhull1ri.jpg

This is the same area, in hull 1, using the new brush expansion:

http://img222.exs.cx/img222/4244/newhull9co.jpg

'nuff said o_O 
Forgot To Add 
Thanks to aguirRe for the above screenshots :D 
Kinn & Al. 
I've tested last week a "beta" release of aguirRe's new TxQBSP tool, and I noticed some improvement in VIS process.
Accordig to aguirRe, it seems it was pure coincidence, but.. I'm not convinced... so I just would like to know if anybody noticed this kind of effect ?
I saw that with this new expansion logic, VIS runtime process was reduced... For long process, winning some few percents for the "base start value" is a real gain in global runtime... So anyone noticed something equivalent ? 
Kinn 
bloody hell! 
That Should Be... 
... 'kin' 'ell! 
Kinn 
Hmm. Surprisingly, that second one actually looks like it's built correctly by QBSP. Who'd have thunk it? 
Terrain Expansion 
yeah, I have yet to try this out on my own terrain map, but it looks very sweet. 
GTK 1.3.12 Mouse Problems! 
I've posed on a few sites and havent gotten anything helpfull, i pray you can help.
I'm trying to edit for jedi academy, got 1.5.0 but doesnt load everything... 1.3.12 is good on the textures, but i have a worse problem, i cant move around in the 2d/3d window using the right mouse button (whenever i click/hold it and try to manipulate ether view it ether goes straight down in the 2d view, or straight up in the 3d view.) the last place i posted i was told that its possible to change/swapp out a config file or something... sounded pretty halfbaked, but if anyone can help me i will be in your debt! thank you for tryin =) 
Ice Quake? 
I've been trying to install the quakecapture_bin_20040801
This for making some demofiles editing.
I installed the programm, but when I touch glquake I enter an icy Quake world.
Only the sky texture comes through.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/quake12.jpg

Is there a way to get the texture back? 
Try 
adding option -no8bit
Great! 
That works. 
This Info 
and other engine problems are also listed in my latest ToolTips, Engine section. 
For Doom3 Mappers 
Just this on iddevnet.com, some doom3 mappers may have missed it? Anyway it explains all the doom3 compile vars and their effects, very handy to know...



glview Not implemented
v Print extra information as the map is compiling
draw Render the level as it's compiling (not sure if this works anymore)
noFlood Don't 'flood' the level marking outside surfaces invisible
noLightCarve Don't carve geometry based light volumes (default)
lightCarve Carve the geometry based on the volume of the lights that touch them
noOpt Don't optimize (merge and cut) triangles
verboseentities Print extra information about entities (more so than with just verbose)
noCurves Don't process patches
noModels Not implemented
noClipSides For debugging, don't clip the sides of a brush to other solid parts of the world
noCarve Don't cut up any surfaces (like adding noFragment to every surface)
shadowOpt <n> Set the shadow optimize level:
0 - No optimization
1 - SO_MERGE_SURFACES (default)
2 - SO_CULL_OCCLUDED
3 - SO_CLIP_OCCLUDERS
4 - SO_CLIP_SILS
5 - SO_SIL_OPTIMIZE
noTjunc Don't fix t-juctions. (Triangle optimization won't work without t-junction fixing)
noCM Don't generate .cm (collision) information
noAAS Don't generate .aas (pathfinding) information
editorOutput Pipe status messages to the editor window

Might look into the settings and perform some tests too see if the different ShadowOpt <n> settings and LightCarve actually are worth doing 
Aguire 
i was using your light util today and all of a sudden, it started making my map pseudo fullbright.

what i mean is that it's not a 'real' fullbright like when you compile a map with no lights or do r_fullbright 1 in the console.

not clipping outside the map turns the viewmodel dark like it normally does, and overbright lighting in winquake and fitzquake is visible, but everything lower than 100% light becomes 100% and everything above that (overbright) remains the same.
if i turn on r_fullbright in the console in fq, the overbright lighting goes away.

any ideas? 
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