@#6
Many maps will break without the two extra patches that do NOT come with the Arcane Dimensions base package.
In the future, simply ask for this sort of thing instead of editing/repackaging files nobody has given you permission to edit/repackage.
Things are packaged this way to ensure compatibility with all engines and setups, as if someone just dropped that into their AD folder it could at best not work, and at worst wreck their AD install.
In General
If it's a true stand-alone pack I think organizers should pair down the install where possible. Not a crime per se, but kind of a "best practices" thing. 500mb is pretty excessive.
Also not making a readme is just plain lazy. Many of us DO read still.
File Size.
#10 posted by Tintin on 2019/12/17 20:40:28
500 MB isn't excessive, it's 2019. 1,048,576 MB of storage costs ~£30. This pack is perfectly acceptable.
Tnx
#11 posted by arkngt on 2019/12/17 20:41:07
I ended up uninstalling/reinstalling AD to give this a separate install folder. That said, just started the pack and I absolutely love Violet Fluid. It's beautiful and fun. Looking forward to the rest. Thanks to all involved!
@Tintin
It's an excessive download for some. Especially when it might be possible to pair it down. And many folks in the Quake community aren't made of money. But it's a stand alone pack based on the devkit so a lot of the files actually are necessary.
#13 posted by arkngt on 2019/12/17 22:44:47
Ah, so it's a standalone. I thought it was an addon for AD. That's the reason I got annoyed by it "taking over" my AD install and ended up reinstalling the latter.
Did I commit the sin of omission by not writing a readme? Possibly. But ultimately, there wasn't all that much to write about in my entry's case - maybe except for giving discrete credit for each and every person who produced the custom textures I used. I crunched some numbers earlier this morning and I don't think I spent more than 24 hours on the map - really, I just threw together a speedmap when Fairweather had showed us (on #terrafusion) a screenshot of the start map. Just seeing that compelled me into action... but it was last Wednesday. Short notice? No kidding...
There was little time, which was a problem, as it takes me long to think of a suitable texture set and the general feel of the map - which leaves no time to actually do some actual brush pushing. Fairweather helped, giving me the tip to make a snowy metal map. Right away, I thought of using the blue ID1 runes I'd made all the way back in 2009, for the e3m4 variant from the ill-fated RemakeQuake. It didn't take me long to see that combining them with white fog would produce cool results.
My main progression idea - wrap the main path tightly around the start - yielded, to my surprise, a quite interesting layout.
Although I pretty much speedmapped the thing, and the size limit was not helping, I'm still quite happy with my map. I think it's got some unusual ideas, tight combat, and decent exploration (despite the map size). I hope you all like it!
@onetruepurple
#15 posted by Greenwood on 2019/12/18 01:03:40
That was a cool little map! I liked that, despite its small size, you had a few different routes. The fog did give it a chilly feel. I enjoyed the close-quarter combat too that some of the newer maps tend to avoid.
I'm Tempted...
to take maps without readme files and repackage as maps made by Repus.
Chedap Map Begining Was Cool!
#17 posted by Barnak on 2019/12/18 03:16:03
I loved the vista on that one, with the nice skybox, the tilted horizon and reflection on water.
Also, the red blood on snow was a great effect on another map (don't remember which one).
But WTF with this weird museum circus map!? That was a junk map for drunk players on crack. What an ugly surrealistic map.
Updated
Currently uploading possibly the final version. Should be ready to download in about an hour. Includes the missing readme + installation instructions, bug fix updates to Chedap's level and a fix for a softlock on the Start map.
Thanks, Gentlmens, For Your Forgivness,
#19 posted by CV on 2019/12/18 07:18:40
Mr. Fairweather and especially Mr, dumptruck_ds.
Yes, now 2019 and disk space becomes cheaper in addition minimum sys RQ was not cpecified. Modern maps built not for weak PC. When I try xmasjam2019_here and xj19_naitelveni maps on config: core i7 640m/intel HD graphics I-st gen/8Gb ram - they are becomes almost unplayable due to freezes. (This beautifull, of course, maps used a lot of open spases - the weakness of Quake Engine). By the other hand, due to the power of modern pc and talentes of modern Mappers, we can enjoy such beautiful masterpies maps.
But What I Want.
#20 posted by CV on 2019/12/18 07:19:19
In addition, I care about peoples, who used to see own custom content in its favorite mod. (Even mappers used and prodused custon content, is not it?) Spesific of AD is, as You know, put PAK or pk3 into its directory is not enough, You should also remowe or replace the same file in thier directory. And I just already did it. And parameter -game ad -game xmasjam2019 allows not duplicate custom content in each mod folder. That's the reason why.
#15
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. I was a bit afraid that people would find it too cramped or too chaotic. I agree that most modern maps try to shy away from the style I've applied here, and probably for a reason.
Embarrassingly, I don't think I've played any of your maps yet. :(
But that's about to change soon!
#20
And parameter -game ad -game xmasjam2019 allows not duplicate custom content in each mod folder.
That's for DarkPlaces, which nobody on this forum uses.
All That I Wrote Above Is For Quakespasm,
#23 posted by CV on 2019/12/18 07:50:33
that I use.
#24 posted by bps on 2019/12/18 09:50:17
Hello guys, nice work here, really lovely maps :)
As a representative of the multiplayer QW community, I just registered to see if there's any interest in making a fresh xmas mp map? Currently on most servers, there's only xmastree.bsp and hohoho.bsp, which feel pretty dated.
The idea just popped, maybe one of you pro's wanna port a "simplified" version of your xmas map maybe to become a dmm4 aim room, or whatever flicks your switch. How does that sound? To me it seems like little effort, and great exposure, as I'll personally ensure to spread it to the most popular and used QW servers, so that anyone can download it and play it there.
I'm online 24/7 at the QW discord: discord.quake.world if you wanna chat about it :) (There's also a #mapping-talk channel for you nerds to explore)
Cheers,
bps
@bps
Which of the maps would you suggest converting? Not a ton of MP mappers here but I think you might find a taker or someone willing to port one of the maps with the author's permission.
#26 posted by chedap on 2019/12/18 18:28:05
Skill 2 demos
Fullbright patch
Heresy's map was a highlight for sure: visually striking, layered, use of space feels effortless. Looking forward to the next map where every edge is going to be bevelled! (I did find the rest of the monsters afterwards btw)
Another highlight was Nyoei's map: great flow, balance, progression, scripting. Very dynamic map, and looks good too. Amazing growth compared to previous levels by the author.
Maxx nailed the sense of scale and had the best atmosphere. Ionous' map was impressively long and the most involved, but I got hopelessly stuck by avoiding a progress-critical fall. OTP's was a devious little level and Qalten's had a nice open classic feel to it.
Anti-highlight is enemies with bloated HP in multiple maps. At least set the place up as a boss fight, don't just throw them in with no preparation. It can (and has) been done before, just got to do it properly.
By The Way
#27 posted by chedap on 2019/12/18 18:29:37
Does collecting all runes do anything? One on startmap, one on Heresy's, one on JCR's (that I didn't figure out), should I be looking for a fourth?
Naitelveni's Map Missing Env Textures
#28 posted by Barnak on 2019/12/18 23:23:44
This map is missing 6 "boneyard" textures, from gfx/env.
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Not Necessary To Play
that's a skybox FYI
Skybox Missing In Naitelveni
#30 posted by Barnak on 2019/12/19 00:19:25
I know it's a skybox. This map is an exterior stage, and the current default skybox is ugly and doesn't fit the map (which is very nice, by the way). It needs its skybox!
Nait, where are you Quake God?
Boneyard = D4sky03 ?
#31 posted by Barnak on 2019/12/19 00:30:32
I suspect that Nait's missing skybox is this one:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/r5mGL
which is the same as d4sky03. I tried it and it's very nice indeed!
@Chedap
#32 posted by Qalten on 2019/12/19 00:57:15
Thanks a ton for playing through all of the maps with demos, it's super useful to see and learn from, plus the text comments are helpful too!
I have no idea why so many boglords in this pack, one of those funny coincidences I think :P
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